CJT wrote:

TokaMundo wrote:

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:50:45 GMT, CJT Gave us:


Your "expectations" are irrelevant.


So too is your vacuous post.

At least you agree with me that he's full of baloney.

I suggest you read this. It does what the OP wanted.

http://www.nvlsi.no/index.cfm?obj=do...isplay&doc=242


Nordic launches nRF24Z1 - an Industry First Single Chip 2.4GHz 4Mbit/s
Solution for CD-Quality Wireless Audio Streaming, with Extremely Low
Latency


Graham

On 8/27/2005 7:10 AM, Pooh Bear wrote:
Tim Martin wrote:


"Dan" wrote in message
...


Or check out SlimDevices SqueezeBox 2. Plays FLAC and OGG. For FLAC
you need G wireless speed.

The $75 Linksys WMLS11B comes with little speakers, has analog audio and
optical digital out, and handles mp3 and .wav files. Internet radio plays
only through the analog audio outputs. It includes wired and wireless
Ethernet (801.11b rather than 802.11g.). On paper, it seems amazing for the
street price. Unfortunately, the corporate handicapping department seems to
have struck: it's reported that it won't handle playlists longer than 12
tracks.

The $100 Netgear MP101 has built-in wired and wireless ethernet and handles
.wav (with downloadable firmware update), but does not have digital out.
I'm told CompUSA has the Netgear for sale on and off at $50. I have a
Netgear, which I use with the Twonky server rather than Netgear's own; that
lets you play internet radio for free. By the way, the Netgear has a fixed
line out, plus a line out with volume control which can be used for
headphones. I guess the Netgear headphone out could be fed into a pair of
Gainclone-powered speakers for a rather cheap bedroom system ... the
amplifier needs no input selection, and no controls except on and off.
(Probably the same applies to other network music servers, but the only one
I have is the Netgear MP101). netgear also do an MP115 model, which uses a
TV as its display.

The $150 Philips Media Player has built-in wireless ethernet and handles
video. (This seems similar to the Prismiq Mediaplayer)

The $160 Creative Sound Blaster Wireless has digital out, but doesn't seem
to handle .wav files

The $200 Audiotron does not have built-in wireless (obviously you can
install a wireless internet link and connect the Audiotron to that.) but it
does handle .wav and has digital output.

The $200 Omnifi DMS1W does not have digital output, but can connect to a TV
for its user interface. I don't know if it supports .wav. There's another
Omnifi model on sale at geek.som for $80, including a Dlink USB wireless
device for the computer.

The $300 Squeezebox is from Slim Devices, the company who (I believe) were
first to market. The manufacturers refer to its high-quality DAC. It's
probably a useful benchmark to assess the others by. The Squeezebox server
allows you to control what's playing from a networked computer with web
browser.

The Philips Streamium comes with speakers and CD player (which will play MP3
CDs, too) and has wireless ethernet.

The Dlink 320 and 320RD support MP3, WAV, WMA, the 320RD also adds OGG and
AIFF. These both do pictures and video files. The 320RD also includes a
DVD drive so it can double as a DVD player. Both offer digital outputs and
are both "G" wireless. Prices range around $200-300.


I expect all these devices compress the audio data before streaming it.

Not hi-fi at all.

Graham


I use FLAC with my SB2's so the music is stored in LOSSLESS compression,
then transferred to a SB2 and uncompressed to original CD. Hifi, indeed.

Dan

On 8/30/2005 8:52 PM, Dan wrote:
On 8/27/2005 7:10 AM, Pooh Bear wrote:

Tim Martin wrote:


"Dan" wrote in message
...


Or check out SlimDevices SqueezeBox 2. Plays FLAC and OGG. For FLAC
you need G wireless speed.


The $75 Linksys WMLS11B comes with little speakers, has analog audio and
optical digital out, and handles mp3 and .wav files. Internet radio
plays
only through the analog audio outputs. It includes wired and wireless
Ethernet (801.11b rather than 802.11g.). On paper, it seems amazing
for the
street price. Unfortunately, the corporate handicapping department
seems to
have struck: it's reported that it won't handle playlists longer
than 12
tracks.

The $100 Netgear MP101 has built-in wired and wireless ethernet and
handles
.wav (with downloadable firmware update), but does not have digital out.
I'm told CompUSA has the Netgear for sale on and off at $50. I have a
Netgear, which I use with the Twonky server rather than Netgear's
own; that
lets you play internet radio for free. By the way, the Netgear has a
fixed
line out, plus a line out with volume control which can be used for
headphones. I guess the Netgear headphone out could be fed into a
pair of
Gainclone-powered speakers for a rather cheap bedroom system ... the
amplifier needs no input selection, and no controls except on and off.
(Probably the same applies to other network music servers, but the
only one
I have is the Netgear MP101). netgear also do an MP115 model, which
uses a
TV as its display.

The $150 Philips Media Player has built-in wireless ethernet and
handles
video. (This seems similar to the Prismiq Mediaplayer)

The $160 Creative Sound Blaster Wireless has digital out, but doesn't
seem
to handle .wav files

The $200 Audiotron does not have built-in wireless (obviously you can
install a wireless internet link and connect the Audiotron to that.)
but it
does handle .wav and has digital output.

The $200 Omnifi DMS1W does not have digital output, but can connect
to a TV
for its user interface. I don't know if it supports .wav. There's
another
Omnifi model on sale at geek.som for $80, including a Dlink USB wireless
device for the computer.

The $300 Squeezebox is from Slim Devices, the company who (I believe)
were
first to market. The manufacturers refer to its high-quality DAC. It's
probably a useful benchmark to assess the others by. The Squeezebox
server
allows you to control what's playing from a networked computer with web
browser.

The Philips Streamium comes with speakers and CD player (which will
play MP3
CDs, too) and has wireless ethernet.

The Dlink 320 and 320RD support MP3, WAV, WMA, the 320RD also adds
OGG and
AIFF. These both do pictures and video files. The 320RD also
includes a
DVD drive so it can double as a DVD player. Both offer digital
outputs and
are both "G" wireless. Prices range around $200-300.



I expect all these devices compress the audio data before streaming it.

Not hi-fi at all.

Graham


I use FLAC with my SB2's so the music is stored in LOSSLESS compression,
then transferred to a SB2 and uncompressed to original CD. Hifi, indeed.

Dan

Also, to distribute the music I have a KuroBox HG with a 400GB Seagate
hardrive synch'd to another identical one. Each only uses 17W of power
and is extremely quite. But if you have no linux experience at all,
steer clear.

Dan

Dan wrote:

I expect all these devices compress the audio data before streaming it.

Not hi-fi at all.

Graham

I use FLAC with my SB2's so the music is stored in LOSSLESS compression,
then transferred to a SB2 and uncompressed to original CD. Hifi, indeed.

What's an SB2 ?

Is it wireless ?

Graham

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...

What's an SB2 ?

Is it wireless ?

Squeezebox 2; yes, it's wireless. You place one in each room where you
want to hear sound; and you have a single computer in your home storing all
the music. The music is stored uncompressed or compressed, and transmitted
over the Ethernet wired or wireless network the way it is stored. The
Squeezebox 2 can provide analog or digital output.

The Squeezebox 2 costs about $300 for each room, which makes it the most
expensive of the available solutions for computer-server based wireless
distribution of uncompressed digital audio files. Still, the non-computer
based solutions seem to cost $1000 for each room each right now.

Of course with the computer-based solutions you can have the Squeezebox 2 in
some rooms, and lower-cost devices such as the $100 Netgear MP101 in others.

Tim

"Tim Martin" schreef in bericht
...
The $150 Philips Media Player has built-in wireless ethernet and handles
video. (This seems similar to the Prismiq Mediaplayer)

Do these devices know about WPA? I mean, I'm not going to have my wireless
without a bit of security.

gr, hwh

On 9/3/2005 4:57 PM, hwh wrote:
"Tim Martin" schreef in bericht
...

The $150 Philips Media Player has built-in wireless ethernet and handles
video. (This seems similar to the Prismiq Mediaplayer)


Do these devices know about WPA? I mean, I'm not going to have my wireless
without a bit of security.

gr, hwh



The SB2 does. You might want to ask do the other units support FLAC if
you care about HiFi.

"hwh" wrote in message
...

Do these devices know about WPA? I mean, I'm not going to have my wireless
without a bit of security.

I don't know... I can tell you the Netgear MP101 doesn't support WPA. The
Netgear MP101 does support WEP-128, but Netgear's own web site says this is
not much harder to crack than WEP-40/WEP-64. See

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101190.asp

Anyway, if anyone wants to supply the info for other NMDs (Network Music
Devices), I'll add it to my list and repost it (or put it on a web page or
something.)

Tim

"Dan" wrote in message
...

You might want to ask do the other units support FLAC if
you care about HiFi.

I didn't notice other devices supporting FLAC, though several do support
..wav

Anyway, if anyone wants to email me the supported file format info for other
NMDs (Network Music Devices), I'll add it to my list and repost it (or put
it on a web page or something.)

Tim