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BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter



 
 
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Old August 19th 05, 12:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Robert
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Default BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter

I looked back through the thread to see what tuner was being discussed
but could not locate it. It sounds as if it might the Cambridge Audio
Azur 640T. The manual indeed says nothing about the 'signal strength'
bar and my experience of the bar is that it sits at maximum even with a
very poor aerial and is not much use to help with aerial placement.

The only time it shows much less than maximum, is when the reciever
loses lock on the DAB signal and dies. BTW this is apparently
(according to the forum on CA website) a known problem soon to be
fixed.

Robert

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Old August 19th 05, 12:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
DAB sounds worse than FM
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Default BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter

Robert wrote:
I looked back through the thread to see what tuner was being discussed
but could not locate it. It sounds as if it might the Cambridge
Audio Azur 640T. The manual indeed says nothing about the 'signal
strength' bar and my experience of the bar is that it sits at maximum
even with a very poor aerial and is not much use to help with aerial
placement.



It'll be a signal quality meter then, because so long as there's only a
small number of uncorrected errors then it will sit at maximum.


The only time it shows much less than maximum, is when the reciever
loses lock on the DAB signal and dies. BTW this is apparently
(according to the forum on CA website) a known problem soon to be
fixed.



Radioscape modules, eh...


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Old August 19th 05, 08:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Roderick Stewart
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Default BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter

In article . com, Robert
wrote:
I looked back through the thread to see what tuner was being discussed
but could not locate it. It sounds as if it might the Cambridge Audio
Azur 640T.


That's the one. The amplifier is a 540A and the CD player is a 640C. I got
them all at the same time from Richer Sounds, partly so they would match
visually as well as electrically. Extravagant perhaps, but the sound
quality of this ensemble takes away the pain in the wallet.

The manual indeed says nothing about the 'signal strength'
bar and my experience of the bar is that it sits at maximum even with a
very poor aerial and is not much use to help with aerial placement.

The only time it shows much less than maximum, is when the reciever
loses lock on the DAB signal and dies. BTW this is apparently
(according to the forum on CA website) a known problem soon to be
fixed.


I've just switched through a few DAB stations, and yes, most of them do
seem to show full scale, though there are a few that don't. The ones that
show two or three bars don't sound noticeably worse than the ones that
show full scale, but frankly this isn't saying much. Nearly all the
stations seem to be carrying pop music, none of them sound particularly
good, and some of them are quite nasty. Classic FM and Radio 3 seem just
about tolerable - until you switch to FM for comparison, to hear the same
programme played through the same amplifier and loudspeakers (or
headphones), the only difference being the transmission method, and then
you realise what you've been missing.

Rod.

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Old August 20th 05, 06:28 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:28:45 +0100, Roderick Stewart wrote:

I've just switched through a few DAB stations, and yes, most of them do
seem to show full scale, though there are a few that don't. The ones that
show two or three bars don't sound noticeably worse than the ones that
show full scale, but frankly this isn't saying much. Nearly all the
stations seem to be carrying pop music, none of them sound particularly
good, and some of them are quite nasty. Classic FM and Radio 3 seem just
about tolerable - until you switch to FM for comparison, to hear the same
programme played through the same amplifier and loudspeakers (or
headphones), the only difference being the transmission method, and then
you realise what you've been missing.

Rod.


I rather think that in the case of R3, what you were missing on DAB was the
dynamic compression of FM. It does tend to make the sound more relaxed by
squashing the lumps out. I find R3 on DAB very acceptable, although not
quite as good as it is on Freeview.

I don't listen to any of the pop stations on DAB because they are all
totally unacceptable.

d
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Old August 20th 05, 11:48 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
tony sayer
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Default BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter

In article , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:28:45 +0100, Roderick Stewart wrote:

I've just switched through a few DAB stations, and yes, most of them do
seem to show full scale, though there are a few that don't. The ones that
show two or three bars don't sound noticeably worse than the ones that
show full scale, but frankly this isn't saying much. Nearly all the
stations seem to be carrying pop music, none of them sound particularly
good, and some of them are quite nasty. Classic FM and Radio 3 seem just
about tolerable - until you switch to FM for comparison, to hear the same
programme played through the same amplifier and loudspeakers (or
headphones), the only difference being the transmission method, and then
you realise what you've been missing.

Rod.


I rather think that in the case of R3, what you were missing on DAB was the
dynamic compression of FM. It does tend to make the sound more relaxed by
squashing the lumps out. I find R3 on DAB very acceptable, although not
quite as good as it is on Freeview.


They as far as I'm aware back the processors quite a lot at night when
the audience is listening in a more critical mode.....

I don't listen to any of the pop stations on DAB because they are all
totally unacceptable.


And perhaps something to do with the advance of time;-))....

d


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Old August 20th 05, 12:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default BBC Proms Radio 3 - relentless stutter

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:48:27 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:28:45 +0100, Roderick Stewart wrote:

I've just switched through a few DAB stations, and yes, most of them do
seem to show full scale, though there are a few that don't. The ones that
show two or three bars don't sound noticeably worse than the ones that
show full scale, but frankly this isn't saying much. Nearly all the
stations seem to be carrying pop music, none of them sound particularly
good, and some of them are quite nasty. Classic FM and Radio 3 seem just
about tolerable - until you switch to FM for comparison, to hear the same
programme played through the same amplifier and loudspeakers (or
headphones), the only difference being the transmission method, and then
you realise what you've been missing.

Rod.


I rather think that in the case of R3, what you were missing on DAB was the
dynamic compression of FM. It does tend to make the sound more relaxed by
squashing the lumps out. I find R3 on DAB very acceptable, although not
quite as good as it is on Freeview.


They as far as I'm aware back the processors quite a lot at night when
the audience is listening in a more critical mode.....


Yes, but I don't know how much.

I don't listen to any of the pop stations on DAB because they are all
totally unacceptable.


And perhaps something to do with the advance of time;-))....

d


That hurt! All the more because it is true.

d
 




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