WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

In article , Eiron
wrote:

Warm Blue Glow, or was it Shhhh!, wrote:

I mean, you think haggis is food. We call that 'entrails' here. I
assumed that if you ate haggis that automatically meant that you had a
sense of humor...

It's only the Linn and Tannoy fans that enjoy haggis.
Down south we eat faggots, about as often as you eat chitlins.

For some reason, I believe you.

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On 14 Mar 2006 00:39:05 -0800, "Warm Blue Glow"
wrote:

From: Stewart Pinkerton
Date: Tues, Mar 14 2006 1:03 am
Email: Stewart Pinkerton

So admitting that you realize the limitations of a medium does not
'save' you from being pigeonholed, you tube bigot.

Is English perhaps not your first language?

I speak Amurrican, not English, dammit. If you listen to outdated
technology, and if you admit as much here, you are a 'bigot.' Sorry,
that's just how it is. You are a vinyl bigot.

You are a Murrican eejit.

You guys need to stop taking everything so seriously...

I mean, you think haggis is food. We call that 'entrails' here. I
assumed that if you ate haggis that automatically meant that you had a
sense of humor...

All Scots have a sense of humour - that's why we moved to Boston in an
attempt to educate the Irish.

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:50:01 +0000, Eiron wrote:

Warm Blue Glow, or was it Shhhh!, wrote:

I mean, you think haggis is food. We call that 'entrails' here. I
assumed that if you ate haggis that automatically meant that you had a
sense of humor...

It's only the Linn and Tannoy fans that enjoy haggis.

Please don't ever count me in as a Linn fan!

Down south we eat faggots, about as often as you eat chitlins.

Oh, I'm sure our Murrican friend has also eaten a few faggots in his
time........ :-)

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:50:01 +0000, Eiron wrote:

Warm Blue Glow, or was it Shhhh!, wrote:

I mean, you think haggis is food. We call that 'entrails' here. I
assumed that if you ate haggis that automatically meant that you had a
sense of humor...

It's only the Linn and Tannoy fans that enjoy haggis.

Please don't ever count me in as a Linn fan!

Down south we eat faggots, about as often as you eat chitlins.

Oh, I'm sure our Murrican friend has also eaten a few faggots in his
time........ :-)

What do you people have against bassoons?

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

"Jenn" wrote in message
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In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:50:01 +0000, Eiron wrote:

Warm Blue Glow, or was it Shhhh!, wrote:

I mean, you think haggis is food. We call that 'entrails' here. I
assumed that if you ate haggis that automatically meant that you had a
sense of humor...

It's only the Linn and Tannoy fans that enjoy haggis.

Please don't ever count me in as a Linn fan!

Down south we eat faggots, about as often as you eat chitlins.

Oh, I'm sure our Murrican friend has also eaten a few faggots in his
time........ :-)

What do you people have against bassoons?

It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
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"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:50:01 +0000, Eiron wrote:

Warm Blue Glow, or was it Shhhh!, wrote:

I mean, you think haggis is food. We call that 'entrails' here. I
assumed that if you ate haggis that automatically meant that you had
a
sense of humor...

It's only the Linn and Tannoy fans that enjoy haggis.

Please don't ever count me in as a Linn fan!

Down south we eat faggots, about as often as you eat chitlins.

Oh, I'm sure our Murrican friend has also eaten a few faggots in his
time........ :-)

What do you people have against bassoons?

It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)



Damn!

OK, make that 'I'm *selectively* binning RAO/RAT crossposters and
respondents'!!

I'm well past *bored to death* with Froot Loops Joot's unending
demonstrations of just how easily he can yank Pinky's (and a few other's)
chains and I'm binning everybody who is unable to resist joining in the
*crossposted* crap!

(Single-posted crap is perfectly OK in my book, however...!! ;-)

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"Warm Blue Glow" wrote in message
oups.com...

At least we know how to cook in Amurrica.


Ah yes. Big Mac 'n' fries, Quarter pounder 'n' fries, Cheeseburger 'n'
fries.

Roy.

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It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:09:00 GMT, wrote:

Tried the Paron and IIRC it was a bit harsher than the CW.

Blind test? ;-)

No reason to yet. They are sufficently different that they can be
determined without it.

That's what everyone thinks before they take a blind test.

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In article ,
"Iain Churches" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:50:01 +0000, Eiron wrote:

Warm Blue Glow, or was it Shhhh!, wrote:

I mean, you think haggis is food. We call that 'entrails' here. I
assumed that if you ate haggis that automatically meant that you had a
sense of humor...

It's only the Linn and Tannoy fans that enjoy haggis.

Please don't ever count me in as a Linn fan!

Down south we eat faggots, about as often as you eat chitlins.

Oh, I'm sure our Murrican friend has also eaten a few faggots in his
time........ :-)

What do you people have against bassoons?

It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

;-)

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

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On 15 Mar 2006 12:11:23 -0800, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

I'm not being snide here - I'm trying to get to the why of why you'd
spend hundreds of dollars more on a somewhat expensive CD player if
you believe what you do about the abilities of CDs.

What do I think I believe Dave and what posts of mine gave you that
conclusion?

This pretty much covers your other questions as well:

"To explain slightly, a CD and decent CD player will give an exact
rendition of the material recorded on that CD".

I can't find this phrase from me or anyone else but you in a google
search. Can you provide a message ID? I don't recall saying this.

Sorry, it looks like it was Dave Plowman who said that. My bad.

You DID seem to support the idea though (as you do below).

The assumption that I take away from this is that you think CD players
are pretty much perfect in terms of representing the CD.

I guess I can agree with that... but if the CD isn't perfect...
perfect recreation of imperfection is kind of silly... don't you think?

Well, that's not something that's fixed by a CD player's
"imperfections", is it (at least for someone who believes that a CD
player should have no bearing on how the CD sounds because the goal is
to simply play back perfectly what's encoded on the disc and that
playback is pretty much fixed by the CD standard)?

Ill wind (was WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR)
 

In article ,
"Iain Churches" wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Stephen

WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR
 

dave weil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2006 12:11:23 -0800, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

I'm not being snide here - I'm trying to get to the why of why you'd
spend hundreds of dollars more on a somewhat expensive CD player if
you believe what you do about the abilities of CDs.

What do I think I believe Dave and what posts of mine gave you that
conclusion?

This pretty much covers your other questions as well:

"To explain slightly, a CD and decent CD player will give an exact
rendition of the material recorded on that CD".

I can't find this phrase from me or anyone else but you in a google
search. Can you provide a message ID? I don't recall saying this.

Sorry, it looks like it was Dave Plowman who said that. My bad.

No problem... you owe us one KC review if they ever tour again :).


You DID seem to support the idea though (as you do below).

The assumption that I take away from this is that you think CD players
are pretty much perfect in terms of representing the CD.

I guess I can agree with that... but if the CD isn't perfect...
perfect recreation of imperfection is kind of silly... don't you think?

Well, that's not something that's fixed by a CD player's
"imperfections",

Well... maybe. There are also theories that people generally
establish their preferences during their early adult years. So if one
grew up listening to recorded music with a certain type of imperfection
they have grown accustomed too... they might find removal of that
imperfection somewhat troubling without being able to exactly put their
finger on it.

For example I was listening to a new CD I got (American Football,
actually released in '99) that seems to be pretty well recorded...that
kept giving me the feeling to turn it down even at moderate levels. It
had a very upfront in my face soundstage that I never get from vinyl
and.. for a first listen.. it was a little unnerving. The lilting
trumpet on the last track was great though... reminded me a bit of KC
Islands which is why I bought it.

Anyway...this is way off track from my comment about masters which
should produce identical sounding CDs.

is it (at least for someone who believes that a CD
player should have no bearing on how the CD sounds because the goal is
to simply play back perfectly what's encoded on the disc and that
playback is pretty much fixed by the CD standard)?

I guess you need to take that up with Plowman. As I've said many
times... I'm not interested in perfect accuracy.. I'm interested in
what pleases me.

ScottW

Ill wind (was WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR)
 

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Was attributing the comment, not the instrument.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:02:10 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


wrote in message
oups.com...
It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

And how appropriate that such a reference should appear in a Jute
thread..................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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And how appropriate that such a reference should appear in a Jute thread.

'Cept for Walter Mitty turned out to be a hero, got the girl, defied
his mother, and lived happily ever after.

Mr. McCoy is and has done none of the above.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Ill wind
 

In article ,
"Iain Churches" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Iain Churches" wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
It's an ill woodwind that nobody blows good":-)

Danny Kaye
Secret Life of Walter Mitty


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


A cigar for that gentleman:-)

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Stephen

Quite correct! Waiter, another cigar!

I couldn't let the opportunity
pass, and was sure that Jenn would accept a little
artistic licence, particularly as the two instruments
are members of the same double-reed family.

She probably appreciates a good racket.

Stephen

Ill wind (was WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR)
 

In article .com,
" wrote:

'xcept it's an oboe nobody blows good. :-)

Was attributing the comment, not the instrument.

No worries.

Stephen

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On 16 Mar 2006 03:54:32 -0800, " wrote:

And how appropriate that such a reference should appear in a Jute thread.

'Cept for Walter Mitty turned out to be a hero, got the girl, defied
his mother, and lived happily ever after.

Mr. McCoy is and has done none of the above.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

He hasn't defied his mother? You have proof?

Maybe he just got confused and deified her instead.

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All I can state with absolute certainty of Mr. McCoy's mother is that
she is twirling in her grave.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

CD mastering (again)
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:59:43 GMT, Jenn
wrote:

In article ,
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article
,
Jenn wrote:
Incorrect. I've stated several times that I WANT CD to be superior in
every way, and that's the truth. They are more convenient, more
readily
available, and there is more music (my main interest) available in
print. I listen to CDs a great deal more than I listen to LPs and I
own
many more CDs than I do LPs. Further, I think that the average CD
sounds better in just about every way to the average LP. I would have
to be an idiot to not CDs to sound better. And, I'm a believer in
science and I understand that the science as we presently understand
it
tells us that CDs should sound better than all LPs.

To explain slightly, a CD and decent CD player will give an exact
rendition of the material recorded on that CD. Philips and Sony made
sure
the parameters were up to this when launching the first domestic system
capable of giving 'studio' quality. But it can't make up for a poor
quality master tape or whatever - it just reproduces that warts and all.

The AES paper that was recently referenced seems to indicate that given
the same input, CD masters can sound different one from the other.

In 1992, that may well have been true, particularly if some facilities
really did believe that it was a 'plug and play' system not needing
any special care. Hopefully, the industry has learned a little in the
past 14 years...................
--

It would be nice to think so. But every mastering facility has their
own idea of how your CD should sound. There is not much interest
in making it sound the same as the studio master, which *should* be
the objective.

Iain

CD mastering (again)
 

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
It would be nice to think so. But every mastering facility has their
own idea of how your CD should sound. There is not much interest
in making it sound the same as the studio master, which *should* be
the objective.

Then all you do is 'copy' it direct to CD observing peak levels. There's
no need to remaster anything for CD.

--
*How can I miss you if you won't go away?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

CD mastering (again)
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
It would be nice to think so. But every mastering facility has their
own idea of how your CD should sound. There is not much interest
in making it sound the same as the studio master, which *should* be
the objective.

Then all you do is 'copy' it direct to CD observing peak levels. There's
no need to remaster anything for CD.

Yes indeed. A simple clone. The client takes his digital master, or
removal hard disk, DAT, DASH or whatever and a CD premaster is
made. This is a quick and fairly inexpensive process. But, if you can
interest the client in some small, subtle but time consuming
"improvements" ........... :-)

Iain