"Wally" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

These guys can tell you where to buy JL Audio products in the UK:
http://www.bbg-av.com/

To clarify, I was always talking only about the spares.

I had a look. The smallest W7 driver costs 350 quid.

Whao baby! I've heard about UK prices, but this!

Where can I flog a pair B139s for that kind of money?

What's happening on eBay with them these days?

Arny Krueger wrote:

I had a look. The smallest W7 driver costs 350 quid.

Whao baby! I've heard about UK prices, but this!

For reference, the prices for the W7 range at BBG are...

8 - 350
10 - 500
12 - 700
13 - 900

That's inches diameter and UK pounds. Since they're aimed at young blades
who like their mobile audio jewelry, I guess they can charge a premium. I'm
sure they're very good units, but I really don't think I need to spend that
kind of money to get an improvement over what I already have.


Where can I flog a pair B139s for that kind of money?

What's happening on eBay with them these days?

Varies, I'd guess about 80 quid a pair on a good day, up to 120-140 or so. I
went through a flurry of buying up spares about a year ago, and got Kef
bass, mid, treble, xovers, for about 200 quid all-in, various deals.


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Wally
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Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.

Arny Krueger wrote:

I had a look. The smallest W7 driver costs 350 quid.

Whao baby! I've heard about UK prices, but this!

For reference, the prices for the W7 range at BBG are...

8 - 350
10 - 500
12 - 700
13 - 900

That's inches diameter and UK pounds. Since they're aimed at young blades
who like their mobile audio jewelry, I guess they can charge a premium. I'm
sure they're very good units, but I really don't think I need to spend that
kind of money to get an improvement over what I already have.


Where can I flog a pair B139s for that kind of money?

What's happening on eBay with them these days?

Varies, I'd guess about 80 quid a pair on a good day, up to 120-140 or so. I
went through a flurry of buying up spares about a year ago, and got Kef
bass, mid, treble, xovers, for about 200 quid all-in, various deals.


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:46:12 GMT, "Wally" wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

I had a look. The smallest W7 driver costs 350 quid.

Whao baby! I've heard about UK prices, but this!

For reference, the prices for the W7 range at BBG are...

8 - 350
10 - 500
12 - 700
13 - 900

That's inches diameter and UK pounds. Since they're aimed at young blades
who like their mobile audio jewelry, I guess they can charge a premium. I'm
sure they're very good units, but I really don't think I need to spend that
kind of money to get an improvement over what I already have.

Check out car engines. To get twice the power, you have to spend a lot
more than twice the money! Why would other mechanical devices be
different? IOW, check out UK-made Volt drivers, then stop whining.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:46:12 GMT, "Wally" wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

I had a look. The smallest W7 driver costs 350 quid.

Whao baby! I've heard about UK prices, but this!

For reference, the prices for the W7 range at BBG are...

8 - 350
10 - 500
12 - 700
13 - 900

That's inches diameter and UK pounds. Since they're aimed at young blades
who like their mobile audio jewelry, I guess they can charge a premium. I'm
sure they're very good units, but I really don't think I need to spend that
kind of money to get an improvement over what I already have.

Check out car engines. To get twice the power, you have to spend a lot
more than twice the money! Why would other mechanical devices be
different? IOW, check out UK-made Volt drivers, then stop whining.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Check out car engines. To get twice the power, you have to spend a lot
more than twice the money! Why would other mechanical devices be
different? IOW, check out UK-made Volt drivers, then stop whining.

I'm not whining. I also wasn't looking for new drivers. Arny suggested the
JL ones, but the UK price turned out to be too dear.


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Check out car engines. To get twice the power, you have to spend a lot
more than twice the money! Why would other mechanical devices be
different? IOW, check out UK-made Volt drivers, then stop whining.

I'm not whining. I also wasn't looking for new drivers. Arny suggested the
JL ones, but the UK price turned out to be too dear.


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:59:03 GMT, "Wally" wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Check out car engines. To get twice the power, you have to spend a lot
more than twice the money! Why would other mechanical devices be
different? IOW, check out UK-made Volt drivers, then stop whining.

I'm not whining. I also wasn't looking for new drivers. Arny suggested the
JL ones, but the UK price turned out to be too dear.

You'll find that Volt drivers are also expensive. Good bass drivers
*are* both large and expensive. They're also *necessary*, if you want
clean bass at high levels.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:59:03 GMT, "Wally" wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Check out car engines. To get twice the power, you have to spend a lot
more than twice the money! Why would other mechanical devices be
different? IOW, check out UK-made Volt drivers, then stop whining.

I'm not whining. I also wasn't looking for new drivers. Arny suggested the
JL ones, but the UK price turned out to be too dear.

You'll find that Volt drivers are also expensive. Good bass drivers
*are* both large and expensive. They're also *necessary*, if you want
clean bass at high levels.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Dave Plowman wrote:

: In article ,
: Arny Krueger wrote:
: If money is tight, auction off the B139s and use the cash to buy a real
: subwoofer driver.
:
: Oh, and if you are building a subwoofer, forget transmission lines. They
: are basically a waste of good box volume.
:
: More sacrilege from Arny. But true. I've never come across a pro
: transmission line speaker, and for good reasons.

Well, more straight talk from Arny ... a loosely chosen entry point!
OTOH, I've been following the thread, as I've a pair of B139's too;-)

AAMOF I hauled them out of a pair of small "TL"s I bought (with early
T27 variant, B110 (unknown label-off variant)) and reduced the cases
to face-down "speaker stands" interim because they sounded so bad,
with old stuffing etc, and besides I needed a temporary replacement
for the one blown T27's in my kitchen Kef 104ab set - but I digress!

Straight talk or not, I've total sympathy with the OP's desire to do
what he can with what he has, especially with budget considerations,
and I'm saving the B139's (and the B110's in case an alternate idea
for a better cabinet arrangement .... looking at the really basic TL I
bought, it could be turned sideways and possibly extended ... as per
http://www.t-linespeakers.org/design/foldings/tttl.html ... maybe ...

But my main point was going to be ... and I hold this out as a
potential future project of my own, all comments appreciated;- -
what about considering the "coffin" dual TL supposedly sub at
http://www.t-linespeakers.org/classics/coffin/
and especially, obviously the details at the "Perfectionist Audio"
link therein,
http://www.hogheaven.com/diyaudio/su...PATL/patl.html
as a possibility for using a spare pair of B139's up?

OK, it requires a little work in the timber dept, but why not?
It might seem to have capabilities beyond the usual, anyway.

[Cheers!]

RdM

"Big is better, and biggest is best" (;=}))
William S. Burroughs as lead dinosaur in some song skit, somewhere

[and the reason I'm delaying mine is because I'd never get it down the
stairs on a move ... but it's definitely a considered future project!]