from another forum anyone any idea whats broke ?

"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp.

I just did:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG

Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with
warranty!!

Looks like its worth at least half of what you paid for
it, champ!

Sure....

Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the
worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-(

So what are you bitching about then?

Didn't get the joke, I see.

Trust me, mon brave,
I've had/heard more SS amps than you've had hot dinners -
the amp I got filled all my requirements, see the
location:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/computer.JPG

Looks like a certifiable POS, and your comments say it sounds no better than
it looks.

I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at
usable levels.)

See previous comments about certifiable POS.

See your complaint:

"I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage"

I wanted a balance control - I got one. (For offset
speaker positioning at close range.)

That's hardly remarkable.

I wanted to put my monitor on it - I have. (Tricky with
the valve amp I had before.... ;-)

That's hardly remarkable.

I wanted it *now* (*then*, IYSWIM)....

That's hardly remarkable.

I got more inputs than I would/will ever need.

That's hardly remarkable.

It's gotta headphone socket.

That's hardly remarkable.

It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em but
I like to have them with SS kit....)

That's hardly remarkable.

It don't run hot.

That's hardly remarkable.

It's *instant* on and off.

That's hardly remarkable.

It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle....

See your complaint:

"gutless power delivery"

It cost feck-all.

I recently picked up a receiver with 3 times the power (decidely not
gutless) and got change from $100. Oh, and it even has a balance control.

It's *sweeet*....

I wouldn't call it that, I'd call it a POS given all of your whining about
its audible faults.

I love it.

Sue me for falling in love with the nicest, smartest, prettiest girl around,
as opposed to them meanest, stupidist, ugliest...

It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this
location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest
after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't
- you reading this Phil....??)

What about

"gutless power delivery"?

Where have I gone wrong?

See your comments a few posts up.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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You've already been given the fix - buy a proper amp.

I just did:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AS%20SP101.JPG

Cracking little bugger for only 60 quid brand new with
warranty!!

Looks like its worth at least half of what you paid for
it, champ!

Sure....

Keith, we've been wanting you to get a SS amp in the
worst way, so you got a SS amp - in the worst way. :-(

So what are you bitching about then?

Didn't get the joke, I see.


Yes I did.


Trust me, mon brave,
I've had/heard more SS amps than you've had hot dinners -
the amp I got filled all my requirements, see the
location:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/computer.JPG

Looks like a certifiable POS, and your comments say it sounds no better
than it looks.


Looks like?

Looks??

OK, dismissing kit on the strength of magazine reviews and hearsay is one
thing (and not uncommon in this group), but getting all bent out of shape
from a picture on a website is extreme behaviour by anyone's standards...



I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at
usable levels.)

See previous comments about certifiable POS.

See your complaint:

"I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage"


*Complaint*? I merely passed a comment (it is noisy compared with my valve
phono stage) - are you a Jewish lawyer by any chance?



I wanted a balance control - I got one. (For offset
speaker positioning at close range.)

That's hardly remarkable.


Who said anything about 'remarkable'??


I wanted to put my monitor on it - I have. (Tricky with
the valve amp I had before.... ;-)

That's hardly remarkable.


Who said anything about 'remarkable'??



I wanted it *now* (*then*, IYSWIM)....

That's hardly remarkable.


Who said anything about 'remarkable'??



I got more inputs than I would/will ever need.

That's hardly remarkable.


Who said anything about 'remarkable'??



It's gotta headphone socket.

That's hardly remarkable.


Who said anything about 'remarkable'??


It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em but
I like to have them with SS kit....)

That's hardly remarkable.


Cyrus II ain't got 'em... :-)

But....

Who said anything about 'remarkable'??



It don't run hot.

That's hardly remarkable.


Who said anything about 'remarkable'??



It's *instant* on and off.

That's hardly remarkable.


Who said anything about 'remarkable'??



It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle....

See your complaint:

"gutless power delivery"


Look up 'complaint' and 'comment' in an *English* dictionary and see if you
can work out the difference. If it was cause for *complaint* I wouldn't have
bought the amp or kept it....



It cost feck-all.

I recently picked up a receiver with 3 times the power (decidely not
gutless) and got change from $100. Oh, and it even has a balance control.


Sure. I believe you...


It's *sweeet*....

I wouldn't call it that, I'd call it a POS given all of your whining about
its audible faults.


My whining? See below:



I love it.


Is that what you call 'whining'? (Better look that up in the dictionary
also, while your on it....)



Sue me for falling in love with the nicest, smartest, prettiest girl
around,


Sue you? You *are* a Jewish lawyer then! :-)


as opposed to them meanest, stupidist, ugliest...


Fine. I'll go for one who can cook... :-)



It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this
location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest
after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't
- you reading this Phil....??)

What about

"gutless power delivery"?


What about it? It is gutless - most sub 2,000 quid SS amps are....



Where have I gone wrong?

See your comments a few posts up.



Comments? Don't you mean *complaints*?? (Do you know *what* you mean?)

Put some more coffee on Arny - you've gone off half-cocked today...!!

;-)

"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message



I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at
usable levels.)

See previous comments about certifiable POS.

See your complaint:

"I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage"

*Complaint*? I merely passed a comment (it is noisy
compared with my valve phono stage)

Any SS phono stage that is noisier than a comparable tubed phono stage is a
certificable POS.

are you a Jewish lawyer by any chance?

No, just a descendent of a Jewish sea captain. ;-)


It's got Loudness and Tone controls. (I don't use 'em
but I like to have them with SS kit....)

That's hardly remarkable.

Cyrus II ain't got 'em... :-)

But....

So what? The Cyrus II isn't my recommendation.

It's brand new and doesn't smell or crackle....

See your complaint:

"gutless power delivery"

Look up 'complaint' and 'comment' in an *English*
dictionary and see if you can work out the difference. If
it was cause for *complaint* I wouldn't have bought the
amp or kept it....

It cost feck-all.

I recently picked up a receiver with 3 times the power
(decidely not gutless) and got change from $100. Oh, and
it even has a balance control.


Sure. I believe you...


It's *sweeet*....

I wouldn't call it that, I'd call it a POS given all of
your whining about its audible faults.


My whining? See below:



I love it.


Is that what you call 'whining'? (Better look that up in
the dictionary also, while your on it....)



Sue me for falling in love with the nicest, smartest,
prettiest girl around,


Sue you? You *are* a Jewish lawyer then! :-)


as opposed to them meanest, stupidist, ugliest...

Fine. I'll go for one who can cook... :-)

See "smartest".


It sounds very good (astounding actually) in this
location wiv mi MP3s/DVDs - as Phil North will attest
after he's heard it Thursday evening. (Or he mebbe won't
- you reading this Phil....??)

What about

"gutless power delivery"?

What about it? It is gutless - most sub 2,000 quid SS
amps are....

...if you include only tubed amps and SS amps that are not competent designs.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message



I wanted a phono stage - I got one. (For LP to HDD at
usable levels.)

See previous comments about certifiable POS.

See your complaint:

"I can easily overlook its noisy Phono Stage"

*Complaint*? I merely passed a comment (it is noisy
compared with my valve phono stage)

Any SS phono stage that is noisier than a comparable tubed phono stage is
a certificable POS.


That's not a real word - try 'certifiable'.....


are you a Jewish lawyer by any chance?

No, just a descendent of a Jewish sea captain. ;-)


Blimey! You don't get to bump into too many of *them* over here.....!!

(That'll be 'Ahoy Vay'! then...?? :-)

I'll just call you Ishmael.....

;-)

Keith G wrote:
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Here's the new kid on the go:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG

(I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-)


snip

Cracking carts IMO - incredibly sweet, and track the dreaded inner
grooves like few others (I've been using an OC9 for a while). I'll send
you that OC3 (v. similar to the OC9) for a mess around in the fullness
of time ;-)

Rob

"Keith G" wrote in message
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Only thing is - what do I do wiv all these *spares*:...

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/spare%20amps.JPG

I'll give you a tenner for the tatty looking grey one ;-)

Phil

"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:
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Here's the new kid on the go:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%202.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/AT-OC5%203.JPG

(I prefer no flash - don't show the dust!! :-)


snip

Cracking carts IMO - incredibly sweet, and track the dreaded inner grooves
like few others (I've been using an OC9 for a while).


Hi Rob,

Yes, I'm very pleased. The OC5 is detailed, clear and very full-bodied.
Tracks lovely, as you say and delivered a *serious* lower register from the
violin in my customary post-prandial Larka - the *definitive* Boult/NPO/Bean
version which is mine (and Serge's) favourite!! On my staple Laurie
Andersons, it projects vocals nicely forward of the mix and is quite forward
overall. (A 'big panty' cart maybe, but no hoe!! ;-)

I played it back to back with my newly-acquired ultra l/o Ortofon MC200
(0.09 mV) and the differences were pronounced. The Orto is a waif-like thing
by comparison, but no less captivating in a totally different way - still
projecting vocals forward but with a much deeper and more distant and
possibly slightly less distinct soundstage. (That wispy bint with the long,
blonde hair in Lord Of The Rings by comparison? ;-)

So, no favourite/winner/whatever yet - far too early and I had just changed
valves which hasn't helped, but it does look like there will be two
different horses for categorically different courses here!! :-)

But....

Interestingly, I followed them immediately with my 'bread and butter' daily
hack (MM cart, name withheld - I'm getting too much competition on eBay for
needles as it is) and it simply said 'OK wodger wanna do then - play a bit
o' music or summat??' and off it went! *Not* ****e - every note and nuance
is still there, the tone is sublime and the 'rhythm' very satisfying as
usual! Vocals not particularly forward and soundstage not quite as extended
but still deep, nevertheless. (Helped by the triodes, obviously). I still
say if it were the only cart I had, I'd not complain!!


I'll send
you that OC3 (v. similar to the OC9) for a mess around in the fullness of
time ;-)

Rob


No, don't do that - wait until you're passing and have got time to swing by
for a catch-up. We'll include it in the usual trading of wampum, fish-hooks
and axe-heads - I'll see if I can find the 'spare' V15/III which seems to
have disappeared somewhere, a while back!!

"Philip North" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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Only thing is - what do I do wiv all these *spares*:...

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/spare%20amps.JPG

I'll give you a tenner for the tatty looking grey one ;-)


Hmm!

]:-)

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:04:49 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Tell me summat. The (outrageous) little speakers it's feeding are stubborn
little barsterds at only 82 dB and the volume display**

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/display.JPG

reads -10 dB for *loud* - does this matter, being SS an' all...??

(Fit were valves you'd think you were out of the optimum operating range....

Hi Keith,

One of the nice things about modern SS amps is that the 'optimum
operating point' is anywhare from the noise floor up to 90% of full
power, so as long as the little beastie isn't audibly clipping,
there's no problem. In fact, I have my own main system set up so that
the volume control is at -6dB at the clipping point for 0dB FS on my
CD player. Gives you much more control when playing quietly, as
opposed to so many lunatic mainstream amps where you can only use the
bottom quarter of the control. I guess there really are people so dumb
that they think an amp is more powerful if you get full output with
the volume control only a quarter up....

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swap the valves around - then get decent used Mullard ECC83 and ECC82,
and replace dodgy Chinese KT88s with Svetlana's , or Mullard EL34s or
GE(C) 7581a/KT66 - this amp will take a lot of power valves.

These amps are INCREDIBLY reliable so far, the build beats many other
manufacturers, so hang in there and get the right valves.

Stewart what is more reliable a Prima Luna or a Meridian ??- I know the
answer, you need to rethink Chinese manufacturing - you're out of date