"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:21:35 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Like this f'rinstance: Go scrute my new/latest 'Faure' horns:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure2.JPG

The drivers are just out the box and fitted only an hour or so ago and
they
*already* sound very **beguiling**!! (Takes weeks to get 'em browned in
properly, but they are amazing right from the off!!) My first 'custom'
design (OK, *tweaked* Fostex standard design....)

Your carpentry is definitely improving - but the cable entry? Do tell!



Hexcuse me?

I take it you are referring to the Jerichos (the Faures are the black
ones) - you tell me how you would run the cable??

See here for a glimpse of the internals:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/jerichos.JPG

(Note the fakkin' sawdust everywhere!!)

We *horn builders*....

pauses for effect

....like to run our cables so the drivers can be taken out in a jiffy and the
cable pulled all the way out and swapped without fuss - I can thread a new
cable through the big 'ole the front in moments! (The cable has a big knot
in it inside, so it can't pull on the driver's connector lugs! ;-)

The Faures have a standard (banana plugs &c.) terminal tray in the back,
you'll no doubt be relieved to hear, you old *conventionalist*....!!

:-)

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:54:09 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:21:35 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Like this f'rinstance: Go scrute my new/latest 'Faure' horns:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure2.JPG

The drivers are just out the box and fitted only an hour or so ago and
they
*already* sound very **beguiling**!! (Takes weeks to get 'em browned in
properly, but they are amazing right from the off!!) My first 'custom'
design (OK, *tweaked* Fostex standard design....)

Your carpentry is definitely improving - but the cable entry? Do tell!



Hexcuse me?

I take it you are referring to the Jerichos (the Faures are the black
ones) - you tell me how you would run the cable??


Getting old, y'see. These days I can't tell a Quad from a Hinari.

See here for a glimpse of the internals:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/jerichos.JPG

(Note the fakkin' sawdust everywhere!!)

We *horn builders*....

pauses for effect

...like to run our cables so the drivers can be taken out in a jiffy and the
cable pulled all the way out and swapped without fuss - I can thread a new
cable through the big 'ole the front in moments! (The cable has a big knot
in it inside, so it can't pull on the driver's connector lugs! ;-)

The Faures have a standard (banana plugs &c.) terminal tray in the back,
you'll no doubt be relieved to hear, you old *conventionalist*....!!

:-)

Well thank goodness for that! Don't those drivers accept standard
speaker "spade" connectors - the small and a bit smaller ones? Got to
be a bit easier than threading wires.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Keith G wrote:


Take no notice of Arny, Rob - he's just whining because he got pulled up for
posting a wildly inaccurate 'factoid'...!!*

Ya gotta larf tho' - he introduces the point into the thread and then tries
to batter me with *irrelevancy* charges! (Besides which, I already tole him
it's my thread and I'll take where I want!!)

Like this f'rinstance: Go scrute my new/latest 'Faure' horns:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure2.JPG


Impressive! I was outnabout looking for some power tools, for shelves
mainly, but with a possible 'dual use' in mind :-)

In the end relied on the trusty jigsaw, but it has to be said you've got
those edges sorted. Plenty of room in here for a few more speakers:

http://www.ifyoucan.org.uk/music/pics/musicroom.jpg

.... at the moment. I've been trying to ween myself off the Beard amp
(under the telly atm) for some months now, but it's going nowhere (quite
literally, weight of the bloody thing), and still does something
remarkable to the music.

The drivers are just out the box and fitted only an hour or so ago and they
*already* sound very **beguiling**!! (Takes weeks to get 'em browned in
properly, but they are amazing right from the off!!) My first 'custom'
design (OK, *tweaked* Fostex standard design....)

Gotta say it - these Visaton drivers are an absolute doddle and a fraction
of the price of the equivalent Fostex units. Get them from Neil at Impact
Audio:

http://www.impactaudio.co.uk/

Top bloke, top service and although his main business is 'industrial' he's
an audio enthusiast and very interested in the 'firewood horn' phenomenon!!

They'd be from the 'industrial units' at about 8 quid a throw?

What about the little placky grilles - do they look OK?


Well, they do look a *little* bit like standard fit mid-70s Datsun :-)


* (So, what's new? :-)

Nowt :-)

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:54:09 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:21:35 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Like this f'rinstance: Go scrute my new/latest 'Faure' horns:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure2.JPG

The drivers are just out the box and fitted only an hour or so ago and
they
*already* sound very **beguiling**!! (Takes weeks to get 'em browned in
properly, but they are amazing right from the off!!) My first 'custom'
design (OK, *tweaked* Fostex standard design....)

Your carpentry is definitely improving - but the cable entry? Do tell!



Hexcuse me?

I take it you are referring to the Jerichos (the Faures are the black
ones) - you tell me how you would run the cable??


Getting old, y'see. These days I can't tell a Quad from a Hinari.

See here for a glimpse of the internals:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/jerichos.JPG

(Note the fakkin' sawdust everywhere!!)

We *horn builders*....

pauses for effect

...like to run our cables so the drivers can be taken out in a jiffy and
the
cable pulled all the way out and swapped without fuss - I can thread a new
cable through the big 'ole the front in moments! (The cable has a big knot
in it inside, so it can't pull on the driver's connector lugs! ;-)

The Faures have a standard (banana plugs &c.) terminal tray in the back,
you'll no doubt be relieved to hear, you old *conventionalist*....!!

:-)

Well thank goodness for that! Don't those drivers accept standard
speaker "spade" connectors - the small and a bit smaller ones?


Yep.


Got to
be a bit easier than threading wires.


Got nowt to do with it - you only pull the cable if you want to replace it -
see the fancy 'fat speaker cable' (pricey OFC stuff) here, for example*:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/fatcable.JPG


It doesn't matter how the cable is connected to the driver - personally, I
can't be arsed with spades, I solder 'em and then I know they're
*connected*....

(I'm with Pinky on cables - they only need to be long enough** and fat
enough not to get hot, for me!! ;-)

Here's a shot of the terminal tray (speaker tipped forward) to set your mind
at rest - no extra chage for the 'sawdust coating'!!

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/terminaltray.JPG


*would need a bigger hole drilled.....

**helps!! ;-)

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:38:45 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

It doesn't matter how the cable is connected to the driver - personally, I
can't be arsed with spades, I solder 'em and then I know they're
*connected*....

I'm with you on that. But the first question still hangs there - why
is that big red wire going in through the side rather than the back
(not the black speaker)?

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:38:45 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

It doesn't matter how the cable is connected to the driver - personally, I
can't be arsed with spades, I solder 'em and then I know they're
*connected*....

I'm with you on that. But the first question still hangs there - why
is that big red wire going in through the side rather than the back
(not the black speaker)?



I already tole you - how TF could you run it through this lot:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/jerichos.JPG

(the top is the far end in the pic) and be able to pull it after the cabinet
is built and sealed? (Forget tacking 'pull throughs' onto it - let's keep it
real!)

Terminal blocks/trays on these muthas just ain't done, believe me! - If I
had only the one (valve) amp on the go, I would run the wires right into it
and hook it directly to the trannies!!

Besides, it's a *horn* thing....

:-)

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


Take no notice of Arny, Rob - he's just whining because he got pulled up
for posting a wildly inaccurate 'factoid'...!!*

Ya gotta larf tho' - he introduces the point into the thread and then
tries to batter me with *irrelevancy* charges! (Besides which, I already
tole him it's my thread and I'll take where I want!!)

Like this f'rinstance: Go scrute my new/latest 'Faure' horns:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure.JPG

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/faure2.JPG


Impressive! I was outnabout looking for some power tools, for shelves
mainly, but with a possible 'dual use' in mind :-)

In the end relied on the trusty jigsaw, but it has to be said you've got
those edges sorted. Plenty of room in here for a few more speakers:

http://www.ifyoucan.org.uk/music/pics/musicroom.jpg


Tray chick! :-)

(Can tell you haven't got a woman shacked up there - far too tidy!! ;-)



... at the moment. I've been trying to ween myself off the Beard amp
(under the telly atm) for some months now, but it's going nowhere (quite
literally, weight of the bloody thing), and still does something
remarkable to the music.


Gerra pair o' horns on it and prepared to be *stunned* then!!


The drivers are just out the box and fitted only an hour or so ago and
they *already* sound very **beguiling**!! (Takes weeks to get 'em browned
in properly, but they are amazing right from the off!!) My first 'custom'
design (OK, *tweaked* Fostex standard design....)

Gotta say it - these Visaton drivers are an absolute doddle and a
fraction of the price of the equivalent Fostex units. Get them from Neil
at Impact Audio:

http://www.impactaudio.co.uk/

Top bloke, top service and although his main business is 'industrial'
he's an audio enthusiast and very interested in the 'firewood horn'
phenomenon!!

They'd be from the 'industrial units' at about 8 quid a throw?


Yep, them's the ones! (FR10s....)



What about the little placky grilles - do they look OK?


Well, they do look a *little* bit like standard fit mid-70s Datsun :-)


Woah!

(It just gets better 'n better, don't it!! :-))

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:00:51 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:38:45 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

It doesn't matter how the cable is connected to the driver - personally, I
can't be arsed with spades, I solder 'em and then I know they're
*connected*....

I'm with you on that. But the first question still hangs there - why
is that big red wire going in through the side rather than the back
(not the black speaker)?



I already tole you - how TF could you run it through this lot:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/jerichos.JPG

(the top is the far end in the pic) and be able to pull it after the cabinet
is built and sealed? (Forget tacking 'pull throughs' onto it - let's keep it
real!)

Terminal blocks/trays on these muthas just ain't done, believe me! - If I
had only the one (valve) amp on the go, I would run the wires right into it
and hook it directly to the trannies!!

Besides, it's a *horn* thing....

:-)

Easy! You could have put a couple of additional holes through the
internal baffles, and pulled it through right at the stage you were at
in the piccy.

And I'm sure there is plenty of room for the amp in the bottom of that
big speaker box - there's a new take on integrated speakers for you...

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:00:51 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:38:45 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

It doesn't matter how the cable is connected to the driver - personally,
I
can't be arsed with spades, I solder 'em and then I know they're
*connected*....

I'm with you on that. But the first question still hangs there - why
is that big red wire going in through the side rather than the back
(not the black speaker)?



I already tole you - how TF could you run it through this lot:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/jerichos.JPG

(the top is the far end in the pic) and be able to pull it after the
cabinet
is built and sealed? (Forget tacking 'pull throughs' onto it - let's keep
it
real!)

Terminal blocks/trays on these muthas just ain't done, believe me! - If I
had only the one (valve) amp on the go, I would run the wires right into
it
and hook it directly to the trannies!!

Besides, it's a *horn* thing....

:-)

Easy! You could have put a couple of additional holes through the
internal baffles, and pulled it through right at the stage you were at
in the piccy.


Oh, sure...

These buggers weigh 55kg apiece - how much wire do want hanging off them
while you work on them, shift them, paint them &c??

(Don't you like the wires where they are???)



And I'm sure there is plenty of room for the amp in the bottom of that
big speaker box - there's a new take on integrated speakers for you...


Hmm....

Haven't you got pertaters to peel or summat??

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:19:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


And I'm sure there is plenty of room for the amp in the bottom of that
big speaker box - there's a new take on integrated speakers for you...


Hmm....

Haven't you got pertaters to peel or summat??




Never peel 'em - much nicer with the skin on. Carrots, on the other
hand...

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com