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" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Trolling ? So I moved on to another post.

Graham:

Actually, McCoy answered your question directly as to what he does
here.

You mean his *is* trolling ? I'm blowed if I can work it out tbh.


Ignore the fartcatchers who follow me around everywhere and make worthless
ocmments every time I fart.

He is farting. On a cosmic scale, that makes so much sense as to be
scary. Maybe his meds are kicking in and some of that fuzzyness is
being replaced with self-knowledge?

What was the immediately above about ?

Graham

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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
oups.com...
Everyone knows that RAT is the target of all kinds of scum who come
here only to conduct flame wars.

Most of them, like Worthless Wiecky, are, well, worthless. They are the
only ones who think they're clever. Silence is the most scathing
comment one can make on their mindless witterings.

Some, like Carlson and Yeager (Yaeger?) are crooked garage vermin
hoping to make a buck but unable to button their lip. Anyone who deals
with people with so little self-control will get what they deserve.

But here I want to address my attention to the slime with electrical
qualifications who come on RAT and UKRA and RAO with the specific
purpose of draining the glee from someone else's hobby. They too,
ludicrously, fancy themselves polemicists. Anyone who wants to
investigate that aspect of their self-delusion can read the threads to
discover how easily I persuade them simultaneously to scratch their
arses and pick their noses in public, how easily one can manipulate
these clowns into exposing their viciousness in their own words. That's
hardly worth pointing out to an aware readership.

The specific aspect of their misbehaviour that attracts my attention
now is their input on a single technical matter, negative feedback.

NFB, and the attitudes to it of various schools of audiophiles, is a
favourite whipping-rod of the diplomaed quarterwits who make up the
silicon slime. We have had years of Krueger and his organ-grinder's
monkey Pinkerton, and the other wretched Ps, and their footsoldier
Trevor Wilson, abusing us on NFB. Wilson went so far as to call me a
liar on NFB because I made some mild jokes about it. Notice the
subtext: he cannot call me a liar unless he first admits that I am
knowledgeable about it; ditto with his abuse of Patrick Turner and
others on the same subject.

**I have NEVER denied that you and Patrick are not knowledgable about the
topic. YOU are just a liar. Instead of explaining the topic of NFB, you
gloss over the important details.


Turn now to a recent thread on RAT, "Negative Feedback in Triodes: The
Logical and Experimental Proof".
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...f8d8ed 263a35
If you don't care about the technicalities, you don't need to read it.
All you need to know is that in this thread I prove beyond a shadow of
a doubt, with a replicable experiment, that triodes sound so good, and
are capable of being used in zero negative feedback circuits,
***because the negative feedback is built into the triode***.

**It is still NFB and few deny this obvious fact. It is why you cannot build
a triode amplifier without NFB. It's already in place.

To hammer
home the truth, I demonstrate that a pentode is a triode with extra
screens to subvert the native NFB of a triode. To nail that truth down
so that the dumbest of the graduate engineers (1) cannot misread it,
Patrick Turner then fills out the argument with an incontestible set of
observable numbers.

**Again, no argument. Patrick explained accurately and succinctly. It is a
shame you cannot do likewise. Instead, you just lie and obfuscate.


That is what the technically-qualified wannabe flame warriors spent
years trying to make me admit, that I use NFB. I ran them around the
mulberry bush for those years just because they are malicious scum and
deserve someone righteous and smart on their arse as punishment for
their continual attempts to set up a pork butchery in someone else's
synagogue.

Now check the names of the contributors to the thread. Ignore the
fartcatchers who follow me around everywhere and make worthless
ocmments every time I fart. Ask instead: Where is Pinkerton? Where is
Pearce? Where is Poopie Stevenson? Where is Arnie Krueger? Where is
Trevor Wilson? Where is Henry Pasternack? Why, I'm singing from their
hymn sheet! But do they come out to support me?

**When you don't lie, I support you. I did earlier in this post. When you
lie, I will jump on you. When you tell the truth, I will support you. Fair
enough?

Good heavens no! There
isn't a chink in my screed or Patrick's numbers for them to insert
their nastiness. Rather than support my good work in their cause, they
are absent and silent. They have no positive impulse.

**Wrong. It's just that you lie and obfuscate so often, I have few
opportunities to agree with you.


Do we need any further proof that the silicon slime is on the net
merely for negative, not to say vicious, purposes? Do I need any
further justication for stomping them whenever I see them?

**You just hate being caught out when you lie. That ain't my fault.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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"Andre Jute" wrote


Turn now to a recent thread on RAT, "Negative Feedback in Triodes: The
Logical and Experimental Proof".
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...f8d8ed 263a35
If you don't care about the technicalities, you don't need to read it.
All you need to know is that in this thread I prove beyond a shadow of
a doubt, with a replicable experiment, that triodes sound so good, and
are capable of being used in zero negative feedback circuits,
***because the negative feedback is built into the triode***. To hammer
home the truth, I demonstrate that a pentode is a triode with extra
screens to subvert the native NFB of a triode. To nail that truth down
so that the dumbest of the graduate engineers (1) cannot misread it,
Patrick Turner then fills out the argument with an incontestible set of
observable numbers.


Thank you for including ukra in your observations André, but I would point
out that there are only 1.1 SETies here (me regularly and an occasional
poster who is a SETmeister but never really mentions them) and that we have
the situation well under control. The only real 'antiSET' opinion here is
from outsiders (not UK residents) who blow in from time to time to grace us
with their wisdom and put us right.

Needless to say, their comments are taken in the spirit in which they are
given and then disregarded *entirely*...

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"Trevor Wilson" wrote


**I have NEVER denied that you and Patrick are not knowledgable about the
topic. YOU are just a liar.




You *are* Stewart Pinkerton and I claim my five pounds....

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Keith G wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote


Turn now to a recent thread on RAT, "Negative Feedback in Triodes: The
Logical and Experimental Proof".
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...f8d8ed 263a35
If you don't care about the technicalities, you don't need to read it.
All you need to know is that in this thread I prove beyond a shadow of
a doubt, with a replicable experiment, that triodes sound so good, and
are capable of being used in zero negative feedback circuits,
***because the negative feedback is built into the triode***. To hammer
home the truth, I demonstrate that a pentode is a triode with extra
screens to subvert the native NFB of a triode. To nail that truth down
so that the dumbest of the graduate engineers (1) cannot misread it,
Patrick Turner then fills out the argument with an incontestible set of
observable numbers.


Thank you for including ukra in your observations André, but I would point
out that there are only 1.1 SETies here (me regularly and an occasional
poster who is a SETmeister but never really mentions them) and that we have
the situation well under control. The only real 'antiSET' opinion here is
from outsiders (not UK residents) who blow in from time to time to grace us
with their wisdom and put us right.

Needless to say, their comments are taken in the spirit in which they are
given and then disregarded *entirely*...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Keith G. says:
"The only real 'antiSET' opinion here is
from outsiders (not UK residents) who blow in from time to time to grace us
with their wisdom and put us right.
You must not be so parochial. Think the wide web, think the world wide
training of audio professionals. They are all indebted to the great
teaching resource about negative feedback this thread represents.
For instance: this invaluable comment to memorise for the
audio-engineering exam. : "Now, which bothers you more? That as a
sockpuppet, McCoy's fingers are
so far up your fundament that you are tasting them from the back of
your throat, or that you are only its second-favorite?"
A lesson to us all.
Ludovic Mirabel

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"flipper" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:33:33 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:

snip

**It is still NFB and few deny this obvious fact. It is why you cannot
build
a triode amplifier without NFB. It's already in place.

A triode amplifier with no NFB.

**No such thing.

If you mean a Triode amp with no GLOBAL NFB or added LOCAL NFB (cathode
resistors, et al), then that is a different thing. In which case, that needs
to be spelled out.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



--
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" wrote:

You must not be so parochial. Think the wide web, think the world wide
training of audio professionals. They are all indebted to the great
teaching resource about negative feedback this thread represents.

I dare say you reckon you're fabulously better placed to comment on audio than a mere professional. Would you also get your next-door neighbour to perform surgery on you in view of this revalation ?

Graham

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flipper wrote:

Operate a triode into a
current mirror and there is no 'feedback', global, local, or
otherwise.

There is however some 'silicon slime' involved ! How *could* you ?

Graham

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:40:47 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Witless Wiecky squawked:

It makes a man quietly proud, however, to be first on its pantheon of
bete-noirs[sic].

The opinion of somebody who abetted the nefarious machinations of Lyin'
Bwian McAssWipe is of no value to those of us who choose not to live in
your gutter, Wiecky.

Perhaps you'd like to enlighten those of us not aware of this
incident, George.

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On 18 Aug 2006 09:26:36 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:

I persuade them simultaneously to scratch their arses and pick their noses in public,

Ignore the fartcatchers who follow me around everywhere and make worthless
ocmments every time I fart.

There's a pattern in your train of thought emerging here, but I wasn't
sure whether to 'ocmment' on it or not.

Ask instead: Where is Pinkerton? Where is
Pearce? Where is Poopie Stevenson? Where is Arnie Krueger? Where is
Trevor Wilson? Where is Henry Pasternack? Why, I'm singing from their
hymn sheet!

I'll have you know that Trevor Wilson has not, and never has had, a
hymn sheet! And he won't thank you for suggesting such. :-)

Abstracting technical advice from the background and character of its
proponents is an expensive delusion I sincerely hope my commercial
competitors will suffer daily. -- Andre Jute, speech to the Media
Association, Helsinki, c1973

Do you usually quote yourself?

Oh, okay.....