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Old August 28th 06, 03:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
lordy
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Just breaking in my Project Debut 3 turntable. Nice sound but there is
a lot of turntable noise. Its been a while since I've used a turntable
in anger but I don't remember this much noise on my old Dual 505.

I've uploaded a small mp3 clip (about 10secs) here
http://lordy.org.uk/rising_to_the_top_-_keni_burke.mp3 (*)

The background noise is only present when the stylus hits the vinyl - so
I guess its not a ground issue? Does it sound excessive?

Cheers,
Lordy

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Old August 28th 06, 03:22 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"lordy"


The background noise is only present when the stylus hits the vinyl - so
I guess its not a ground issue? Does it sound excessive?




** There should be NO audible noise attributable to a hi-fi turntable
itself.

YOUR absolutely asinine 5 minute MP3 demonstrates nothing at all -
except the fact that vinyl is noisy.

**** the hell off - you BLOODY idiot.






........ Phil





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Old August 28th 06, 03:59 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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lordy wrote:

Just breaking in my Project Debut 3 turntable. Nice sound but there is
a lot of turntable noise. Its been a while since I've used a turntable
in anger but I don't remember this much noise on my old Dual 505.

I've uploaded a small mp3 clip (about 10secs) here
http://lordy.org.uk/rising_to_the_top_-_keni_burke.mp3 (*)

The background noise is only present when the stylus hits the vinyl - so
I guess its not a ground issue? Does it sound excessive?

Cheers,
Lordy

(*) Captured to my PC via a cheap pre-amp from Maplin, saved me having to
lug my PC into the sitting room!
Currently reduced from £25 to £15 if anyone is interested!
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...amp&doy=28m 8
Cheaper than the RicherSounds Vivanco pre-amp.


You have 6.5Hz, 50Hz and 100Hz components. Check your earthing for a start
and try to keep vibrations away. Wooden floors are not good. When archiving
your LPs, a high-pass filter at 20Hz will be useful if you can't get rid of
the 6.5Hz resonance.

The Maplin pre-amp is not very good. I haven't done a proper comparison with
my decent pre-amp so it may be psychological, but it sounds 'grainy' to me.

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Old August 28th 06, 05:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:14:55 GMT, lordy wrote:

Just breaking in my Project Debut 3 turntable. Nice sound but there is
a lot of turntable noise. Its been a while since I've used a turntable
in anger but I don't remember this much noise on my old Dual 505.

I've uploaded a small mp3 clip (about 10secs) here
http://lordy.org.uk/rising_to_the_top_-_keni_burke.mp3 (*)


There's a LOAD of low frequency rubbish. That was why, back in the
vinyl days, amplifiers had bass cut switches. Thanks for the
reminder of surface noise too :-)
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Old August 28th 06, 06:40 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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lordy wrote:
Just breaking in my Project Debut 3 turntable. Nice sound but there is
a lot of turntable noise. Its been a while since I've used a turntable
in anger but I don't remember this much noise on my old Dual 505.


I've uploaded a small mp3 clip (about 10secs) here
http://lordy.org.uk/rising_to_the_top_-_keni_burke.mp3 (*)


The background noise is only present when the stylus hits the vinyl - so
I guess its not a ground issue? Does it sound excessive?


Strange - it's mainly hum which would suggest a ground problem, although
it would be nice if the clip included a bit before the stylus was lowered.
It's possible to get induced hum on the cartridge from the turntable motor
which doesn't show with the pickup on the rest.

Can't you find a CD of this performance? ;-)

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Old August 28th 06, 08:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"lordy" wrote in message
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Just breaking in my Project Debut 3 turntable. Nice sound but there is
a lot of turntable noise. Its been a while since I've used a turntable
in anger but I don't remember this much noise on my old Dual 505.

I've uploaded a small mp3 clip (about 10secs) here
http://lordy.org.uk/rising_to_the_top_-_keni_burke.mp3 (*)

The background noise is only present when the stylus hits the vinyl - so
I guess its not a ground issue? Does it sound excessive?




Yes.

If you have tried earth on and earth off, gently feel the cartridge leads up
and see if you can induce or stop hum there - the way the wires are dressed
can sometimes cause a hum, as well as other things...




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Old August 28th 06, 08:46 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:40:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:


Strange - it's mainly hum which would suggest a ground problem, although
it would be nice if the clip included a bit before the stylus was lowered.
It's possible to get induced hum on the cartridge from the turntable motor
which doesn't show with the pickup on the rest.


Aren't you seeing the lf stuff?
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Old August 28th 06, 11:05 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
lordy
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On 2006-08-28, Phil Allison wrote:

"lordy"


The background noise is only present when the stylus hits the vinyl - so
I guess its not a ground issue? Does it sound excessive?




** There should be NO audible noise attributable to a hi-fi turntable
itself.


My first & last reply to you. I'm actually trying to find out if I have
faulty or badly set up equipment. I'm not trying to dis' vinyl or
anything like that.

YOUR absolutely asinine 5 minute MP3 demonstrates nothing at all -
except the fact that vinyl is noisy.


I can hear the same 50Hz component on all the records I've tried , but oddly enough only
when the needle drops right into the groove. When its skating just prior
to dropping in the groove no noise.

**** the hell off - you BLOODY idiot.


You are clearly a very special person.

Lordy






....... Phil





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Old August 28th 06, 11:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
lordy wrote:
**** the hell off - you BLOODY idiot.


You are clearly a very special person.


Ignore the prat, lordy. All the best people do. ;-)

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Old August 28th 06, 11:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:
Strange - it's mainly hum which would suggest a ground problem,
although it would be nice if the clip included a bit before the stylus
was lowered. It's possible to get induced hum on the cartridge from the
turntable motor which doesn't show with the pickup on the rest.


Aren't you seeing the lf stuff?


Only listened to it on the computer speakers. The mains hum is the obvious
thing.

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