Have just upgraded to a Pioneer VSX1016 and Mordant Short 90X's

An considering going to bi-wiring, or should it be more expensive 2 core
wire. want to spend around £20.00 per metre, too much? not enough? plus
banana clips, but I have never used them before, do they fit into both
amp and speaker or are they different sizes for either end? checked
manual for amp and cannot find the size of the output terminals for
plugs. also do you need to solder the clips?
One other thing, the VSX1016 has phase adjustment, so I 'think' that
means I do not have to have the same length for each of the front set,
so might save £'s there (1x1m 1x2m 1x3m)

Any recommendations on the wire? site links for reputable suppliers.
Sorry its a lot of questions.
Un.

Uncopyrightable wrote:

An considering going to bi-wiring,

Why?


want to spend around £20.00 per metre,

Why?


too much? not
enough?

Unless you have desperately high current demands, or rather long cable runs,
you shouldn't need to spend more than a quid a metre.


Any recommendations on the wire? site links for reputable suppliers.

Maplin's heavy duty speaker cable at about 12 quid for a 20m drum should be
just fine...

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...No=49&doy=16m9



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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:48:51 GMT, Uncopyrightable wrote:

Have just upgraded to a Pioneer VSX1016 and Mordant Short 90X's

An considering going to bi-wiring, or should it be more expensive 2 core
wire. want to spend around £20.00 per metre, too much? not enough? plus
banana clips, but I have never used them before, do they fit into both
amp and speaker or are they different sizes for either end? checked
manual for amp and cannot find the size of the output terminals for
plugs. also do you need to solder the clips?
One other thing, the VSX1016 has phase adjustment, so I 'think' that
means I do not have to have the same length for each of the front set,
so might save £'s there (1x1m 1x2m 1x3m)


The advert says this amp has "Large screw type speaker terminals". So
use bare wire screwed down tight. Don't the speakers have screw
terminals as well?

£20 per meter is ridiculously expensive, unless you believe in magic
cables. Bi-wiring is pointless.

Differing cable lengths, within reason, will have absolutely no
effect. You might be able to mess the sound up with this "phase
adjustment". I suggest you leave it alone. If possible, remove it.

Uncopyrightable wrote:

Have just upgraded to a Pioneer VSX1016 and Mordant Short 90X's

An considering going to bi-wiring,

Just use larger gauge wire. It actually does a better job than boutique
'bi-wiring' !

Graham

Wally wrote:

Maplin's heavy duty speaker cable at about 12 quid for a 20m drum should be
just fine...

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...No=49&doy=16m9

Good advice.

Graham

Wally wrote:

Maplin's heavy duty speaker cable at about 12 quid for a 20m drum should be
just fine...

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...No=49&doy=16m9

Farnell's 79 strand cable (2.5mm^2) at 30 quid for a 100m drum is better.

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search2/br...uestid=7879 7

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Eiron wrote:

Maplin's heavy duty speaker cable at about 12 quid for a 20m drum
should be just fine...

Farnell's 79 strand cable (2.5mm^2) at 30 quid for a 100m drum is
better.

Oh, aye - cheaper per metre, and rated at 20A instead of 15, too.


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dinner.

Eiron wrote:

Wally wrote:

Maplin's heavy duty speaker cable at about 12 quid for a 20m drum should be
just fine...

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...No=49&doy=16m9

Farnell's 79 strand cable (2.5mm^2) at 30 quid for a 100m drum is better.


http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search2/br...3937+183353&_r
equestid=78797

Blimey, I don't think I've ever seen such consistant replies on the
subject of speaker cable.

I just fitted up my Castles to the Yamaha amp with some cable from CPC
(aka Farnell), I got two rolls of 50m, but used 6mm/sq for the bass, and
4mm/sq for the treble. It was cheap enough, and being on a roll I just
made the runs the same length. The whole lot was bout £50, and they
sound bloody fantastic. Indeed my mate has heard them and now wants a
similar system and he runs a recording studio (and uses the cheapest and
thickest cable he can get).

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http://www.thehewitts.eclipse.co.uk/
http://web.mac.com/andrewhewitt1/

Andy Hewitt wrote:

Eiron wrote:
Wally wrote:

Maplin's heavy duty speaker cable at about 12 quid for a 20m drum should be
just fine...

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...No=49&doy=16m9

Farnell's 79 strand cable (2.5mm^2) at 30 quid for a 100m drum is better.

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search2/br...3937+183353&_r
equestid=78797

Blimey, I don't think I've ever seen such consistant replies on the
subject of speaker cable.

I just fitted up my Castles to the Yamaha amp with some cable from CPC
(aka Farnell), I got two rolls of 50m, but used 6mm/sq for the bass, and
4mm/sq for the treble. It was cheap enough, and being on a roll I just
made the runs the same length. The whole lot was bout £50, and they
sound bloody fantastic. Indeed my mate has heard them and now wants a
similar system and he runs a recording studio (and uses the cheapest and
thickest cable he can get).

Many many years ago ( actually a couple of decades back ) UK pro-audio magazine
Studio Sound both auditioned and performed technical tests on speaker cable.

One of the very best performers was British house wiring cable ( twin-and earth ) !

Graham

Andy Hewitt wrote:

Blimey, I don't think I've ever seen such consistant replies on the
subject of speaker cable.

It probably won't last...


I just fitted up my Castles to the Yamaha amp with some cable from CPC
(aka Farnell), I got two rolls of 50m, but used 6mm/sq for the bass,
and 4mm/sq for the treble. It was cheap enough, and being on a roll I
just made the runs the same length. The whole lot was bout £50, and
they sound bloody fantastic. Indeed my mate has heard them and now
wants a similar system and he runs a recording studio (and uses the
cheapest and thickest cable he can get).

Is your set-up bi-amped?


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Wally
www.wally.myby.co.uk
You're unique - just like everybody else.