APR wrote:

Swapped it over, put the same CD on we'd just been listening to...
"Bloody hell!" Yes, indeed it did make a difference, we both heard
it quite clearly. Improved imaging and a much less muddy sound.
How come there are NEVER and stories that start *Once upon a time we
changed over to these high dollar interconnects and they sounded like
s#!t.* All these interconnect and speaker wire stories always have a
happy ending.

Actually the first time I heard someone going on about interconnects he
was using a Monster Interlink 100. I swapped it for the freebie one and
couldn't hear any difference.

The interesting thing is when he came back into the room and put a CD on
he said "what's wrong with that, it's gone all flat?" then looked round
the back... and saw I'd swapped the interconnects over.

He'd been in the other room making a coffee at the time and had no idea
I was fiddling around behind his hi-fi.

On that occasion I didn't hear a difference (his system at the time was
an Aiwa XC-300, Technics SU-VX600 and TDL RTL1 speakers) but clearly he
did as the example above shows.

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"Glenn Richards" wrote
Actually the first time I heard someone going on about interconnects he was using a Monster Interlink 100. I swapped it for the
freebie one and couldn't hear any difference.

The interesting thing is when he came back into the room and put a CD on he said "what's wrong with that, it's gone all flat?"
then looked round the back... and saw I'd swapped the interconnects over.


CoughBull****!/Cough


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fleetie

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:12:25 +0100, "Fleetie"
wrote:

"Glenn Richards" wrote
Actually the first time I heard someone going on about interconnects he was using a Monster Interlink 100. I swapped it for the
freebie one and couldn't hear any difference.

The interesting thing is when he came back into the room and put a CD on he said "what's wrong with that, it's gone all flat?"
then looked round the back... and saw I'd swapped the interconnects over.


CoughBull****!/Cough



Aw c'mon. He's having fun in his little fantasy world. He's king of
all Hi Fi there and all his friends spend their time going out of
rooms and coming back in again while he changes cables and things so
they can all be amazed when they come back. Of course, now he has been
told the story about how your wife hears the difference from the
hallway as she comes back in from shopping, we can probably expect
that one to be used as well. Won't be for a while though, because it
needs to be fitted into the rest of the fantasy.

d

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Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:12:25 +0100, "Fleetie"
wrote:

"Glenn Richards" wrote
Actually the first time I heard someone going on about interconnects he
was using a Monster Interlink 100. I swapped it for the
freebie one and couldn't hear any difference.

The interesting thing is when he came back into the room and put a CD on
he said "what's wrong with that, it's gone all flat?"
then looked round the back... and saw I'd swapped the interconnects
over.


CoughBull****!/Cough



Aw c'mon. He's having fun in his little fantasy world. He's king of
all Hi Fi there and all his friends spend their time going out of
rooms and coming back in again while he changes cables and things so
they can all be amazed when they come back. Of course, now he has been
told the story about how your wife hears the difference from the
hallway as she comes back in from shopping, we can probably expect
that one to be used as well. Won't be for a while though, because it
needs to be fitted into the rest of the fantasy.


Love these swipes at mention of the 'wifey' - I don't see the problem, my
other half has got a better musical ear than I have and isn't saddled with
the luggage of knowing what kit's on most of the time...!!

Right, that's me - curry's up now!!

(Then it'll be a vinyl evening on the *valves*, of course....!! :-)

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:20:29 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:12:25 +0100, "Fleetie"
wrote:

"Glenn Richards" wrote
Actually the first time I heard someone going on about interconnects he
was using a Monster Interlink 100. I swapped it for the
freebie one and couldn't hear any difference.

The interesting thing is when he came back into the room and put a CD on
he said "what's wrong with that, it's gone all flat?"
then looked round the back... and saw I'd swapped the interconnects
over.


CoughBull****!/Cough



Aw c'mon. He's having fun in his little fantasy world. He's king of
all Hi Fi there and all his friends spend their time going out of
rooms and coming back in again while he changes cables and things so
they can all be amazed when they come back. Of course, now he has been
told the story about how your wife hears the difference from the
hallway as she comes back in from shopping, we can probably expect
that one to be used as well. Won't be for a while though, because it
needs to be fitted into the rest of the fantasy.


Love these swipes at mention of the 'wifey' - I don't see the problem, my
other half has got a better musical ear than I have and isn't saddled with
the luggage of knowing what kit's on most of the time...!!

Right, that's me - curry's up now!!

(Then it'll be a vinyl evening on the *valves*, of course....!! :-)



Yebbut, curry does kind of dull the senses, dunnit? ;-)

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:20:29 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:12:25 +0100, "Fleetie"
wrote:

"Glenn Richards" wrote
Actually the first time I heard someone going on about interconnects
he
was using a Monster Interlink 100. I swapped it for the
freebie one and couldn't hear any difference.

The interesting thing is when he came back into the room and put a CD
on
he said "what's wrong with that, it's gone all flat?"
then looked round the back... and saw I'd swapped the interconnects
over.


CoughBull****!/Cough



Aw c'mon. He's having fun in his little fantasy world. He's king of
all Hi Fi there and all his friends spend their time going out of
rooms and coming back in again while he changes cables and things so
they can all be amazed when they come back. Of course, now he has been
told the story about how your wife hears the difference from the
hallway as she comes back in from shopping, we can probably expect
that one to be used as well. Won't be for a while though, because it
needs to be fitted into the rest of the fantasy.


Love these swipes at mention of the 'wifey' - I don't see the problem, my
other half has got a better musical ear than I have and isn't saddled with
the luggage of knowing what kit's on most of the time...!!

Right, that's me - curry's up now!!

(Then it'll be a vinyl evening on the *valves*, of course....!! :-)



Yebbut, curry does kind of dull the senses, dunnit? ;-)


:-)

(Now you know why I *have* to have a deck with auto-return.... ;-)

Laurence Payne wrote:

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:01:08 +0100, Glenn Richards
wrote:

When we got the system back to his place I gave him a hand setting it
up, using freebie cables. He suggested we try the Atlantic interconnect
and see if it really did make a difference. "It won't," I replied. But
we tried it anyway.

Swapped it over, put the same CD on we'd just been listening to...
"Bloody hell!" Yes, indeed it did make a difference, we both heard it
quite clearly. Improved imaging and a much less muddy sound.

You've missed out the unprompted comment from his wife :-)

"lunch is ready" ?

Graham

John Phillips wrote:

On 2006-09-22, Eeyore wrote:
John Phillips wrote:

There are demonstrable differences in frequency response between different
cables in an amp-cable-speaker system. There's even a peer-reviewed
JAES paper which shows this. And you don't have to invoke any of the
mystic technical explanations of certain cable manufacturers - it's down
to fully accepted basic physics.

It's fundamentally down to cable resistance. Which in turn is down to the
cross-sectional area. The brand of cable makes no difference.

Certainly excessive resistance in a cable interacts with the speaker's
frequency-dependent impedance to colour the sound.

No question about it !


So you do have
to have low (enough) resistance. No dependence on brand as you say -
just plain geometry. Large (enough) cross sectional area is the key.

I agree.


However the inductance of a cable does start to hurt the frequency
response a bit above 5 kHz or so, so you have to pay attention to
inductance as well. Fortunately that's also dependent only on geometry.
Closely spaced pairs do well in this respect.

Correct. Construction style is an issue potentially at the higher frequencies.
Closely spaced conductors have lower inductance.


The cable's capacitance is rarely an issue unless the amplifier is
unstable into capacitive loads.

Which it shouldn't be if properly designed !


That would be a design defect in my
book but at least one well-known line of amplifiers I know does have
this defect.

Hmmmmmm......

Graham

APR wrote:

"Glenn Richards" wrote

Swapped it over, put the same CD on we'd just been listening to... "Bloody
hell!" Yes, indeed it did make a difference, we both heard it quite
clearly. Improved imaging and a much less muddy sound.

How come there are NEVER and stories that start *Once upon a time we changed
over to these high dollar interconnects and they sounded like s#!t.* All
these interconnect and speaker wire stories always have a happy ending.

It's called self-delusion.

Graham

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:
Swapped it over, put the same CD on we'd just been listening to...
"Bloody hell!" Yes, indeed it did make a difference, we both heard it
quite clearly. Improved imaging and a much less muddy sound.

You've missed out the unprompted comment from his wife :-)

"lunch is ready" ?

ITYM "Yes, dear"

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