On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:49:25 +0100, Glenn Richards
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Don't forget that with POP3 you always have the option to leave a copy
of the email on the server, so you can still access it from multiple
sites.

You can, but... it's a hack. IMAP was designed for that kind of thing.

So what if it's a hack? It works, doesn't it?

d

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:50:49 +0100, Glenn Richards
wrote:

And, of course, you can with POP too.

As I said in an earlier reply, you can, but it's a horrible hack. IMAP
was designed to do this kind of thing, and supports setting flags (read,
replied, forwarded etc) and folders, subfolders etc, which POP3 doesn't.

Well, if you call making a menu selection a "horrible hack" :-)

POP with "leave message on server" works perfectly well for a single
user with multiple computers.

In article ,
Glenn Richards wrote:
Sorry Dave IMAP isn't like fetching your email with pop3 or smtp.
It is more like web mail where all your emails are held on a remote
server and not stored locally. When you want to read an email, even
one you read last week it as to be fetched again from the server.
Pluto cannot do this. It wasn't designed with this in mind.

I'm confused. If it's held on a remote server, presumably you read it
with a browser or dedicated software?

Ok... (puts layman's hat on)...

With POP3 you download your email onto your PC (or Mac, or Acorn,
whatever). It's then stored on your hard disk.

With IMAP all emails are stored in a central repository and are fetched
onto your computer when you open the message.

Yes, I sort of guessed that.

This might seem wasteful, having to transfer the whole message across
the network every time you want to open it. But imagine that you want to
access the same mailbox from your desktop PC, laptop, PDA, mobile phone
etc. You can.

I can see the point in that.

Which is exactly what I do. Thunderbird on the desktop PC and laptops,
the built in IMAP mail client on my phone (Nokia 9500), and if I want to
access emails from anywhere I can use webmail, which is basically an
HTML wrapper around IMAP.

So basically you use your browser to view your e-mail? That was all I
really wanted to know.

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Laurence Payne wrote:

Well, if you call making a menu selection a "horrible hack" :-)

POP with "leave message on server" works perfectly well for a single
user with multiple computers.

His point is that, without the flags and stuff that IMAP has, you're
managing different inboxes, each with their own sets of message
read/unread/etc status flags.


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

So basically you use your browser to view your e-mail? That was all I
really wanted to know.

You can use any IMAP client - MS Outlook can do IMAP, for example.


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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:
My apologies. I wrote this several days ago and decided not to post
it as it was utterly pointless. Pluto (I know Dave and Jim know what
that is) saved the file in the drafts box. I examined this today and
somehow it got posted. Not intended.

I also have found it awkward that Jonathan put the bin right next to
the tick. :-)

You've got me confused now, Jim. ;-)

To save a draft I just click on the delete cross and the popup gives
you the choice of discarding or saving the draught.

I was referring to the queue. i.e. having written and 'sent' something so
far as Pluto is concerned, you can then click on the 'Q' to see a list of
outgoing messages. This window shows the bin rather close to the tick.

Slainte,

Jim

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"Don Pearce" wrote in message

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:49:25 +0100, Glenn Richards
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Don't forget that with POP3 you always have the option
to leave a copy of the email on the server, so you can
still access it from multiple sites.

You can, but... it's a hack. IMAP was designed for that
kind of thing.

So what if it's a hack? It works, doesn't it?

Agreed. I have a number of clients who make effective use of the POP3
"leave message on server" feature. As do I.

What's the difference between leaving the message on the server when you
want to with POP3 or leaving the message on the server all the time with
IMAP? I'm of the opinion that choice is good.

Don Pearce wrote:

Don't forget that with POP3 you always have the option to leave a copy
of the email on the server, so you can still access it from multiple
sites.

Exactly. I normally allow it to stay there for a couple of months before
auto-deleting. And I recommend this too for occasional 'accidents' ! The mail
server always has a recent backup copy !

I don't understand what the fuss is about !

Graham

Laurence Payne wrote:

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:00:19 +0100, Glenn Richards
wrote:

This might seem wasteful, having to transfer the whole message across
the network every time you want to open it. But imagine that you want to
access the same mailbox from your desktop PC, laptop, PDA, mobile phone
etc. You can.

And, of course, you can with POP too.

Yes.

Graham

Glenn Richards wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Don't forget that with POP3 you always have the option to leave a copy
of the email on the server, so you can still access it from multiple
sites.

You can, but... it's a hack.

It's in OE's options FFS !

Graham