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Keith G wrote:


Haven't done that, I could/will try it later..


Don't, the preamp provides power to the mike.


There should be a way of recording without all the controls at the bottom
of their travel.

With the gain all the way down, it should be producing about 100mv for
any normal levels of sound. I use it at about 9 o-clock to feed my
m-audio sound card, seems fine.

--
Nick

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"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:


Haven't done that, I could/will try it later..

Don't, the preamp provides power to the mike.


I know that - I presumed he meant the mic input (without boost) on the
computer...??




There should be a way of recording without all the controls at the bottom
of their travel.

With the gain all the way down, it should be producing about 100mv for any
normal levels of sound. I use it at about 9 o-clock to feed my m-audio
sound card, seems fine.


I used it like this:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Preamp.jpg

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Keith G wrote:


There should be a way of recording without all the controls at the bottom
of their travel.

With the gain all the way down, it should be producing about 100mv for any
normal levels of sound. I use it at about 9 o-clock to feed my m-audio
sound card, seems fine.



I used it like this:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Preamp.jpg






That shouldn't clip then. Maybe worth considering a better sound card. I
am happy for my uses with a M-Audio 9624 FWIW.

--
Nick

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On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:21:26 +0100, Nick Gorham
wrote:

Keith G wrote:


There should be a way of recording without all the controls at the bottom
of their travel.

With the gain all the way down, it should be producing about 100mv for any
normal levels of sound. I use it at about 9 o-clock to feed my m-audio
sound card, seems fine.



I used it like this:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Preamp.jpg






That shouldn't clip then. Maybe worth considering a better sound card. I
am happy for my uses with a M-Audio 9624 FWIW.

I don't think Keith's clipping problems are with the recordings
through the mic. It is the direct connection stuff from the amp that
is too hot. Some attenuation with a pot is the only answer to that.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


There should be a way of recording without all the controls at the
bottom of their travel.

With the gain all the way down, it should be producing about 100mv for
any normal levels of sound. I use it at about 9 o-clock to feed my
m-audio sound card, seems fine.



I used it like this:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Preamp.jpg






That shouldn't clip then. Maybe worth considering a better sound card. I
am happy for my uses with a M-Audio 9624 FWIW.


It's not a problem - if the recording had been important (or a keeper) I'd
have turned the volume down and gone again. There's no easy way to scan a
vinyl track for peak levels!! There's no clipping on this one:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Cantigas.mp3

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"Keith G" wrote


It's not a problem - if the recording had been important (or a keeper) I'd
have turned the volume down and gone again. There's no easy way to scan a
vinyl track for peak levels!! There's no clipping on this one:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Cantigas.mp3



Which I meant to say is a direct TT to HDD transcription (via an SS amp's
own phono) with *no* changes to the recording levels in the software from
the recent, previous recordings...

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In article ,
Keith G wrote:
It's not a problem - if the recording had been important (or a keeper)
I'd have turned the volume down and gone again. There's no easy way to
scan a vinyl track for peak levels!! There's no clipping on this one:

Once you've established a peak level - perhaps with a test disc - mark it
and use that for everything. You're recording on digital and there's
simply no need to make sure *every* recording peaks to maximum. Unless you
work as a mastering engineer for pop CDs, obviously.

--
*What do little birdies see when they get knocked unconscious? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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Nick Gorham wrote:
Keith G wrote:


There should be a way of recording without all the controls at the
bottom of their travel.

With the gain all the way down, it should be producing about 100mv
for any normal levels of sound. I use it at about 9 o-clock to feed
my m-audio sound card, seems fine.



I used it like this:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/Preamp.jpg






That shouldn't clip then. Maybe worth considering a better sound card. I
am happy for my uses with a M-Audio 9624 FWIW.


I've got one you can have Keith - it's a Creative Audigy Platinum. It's
got a front panel thing that links to the PCI soundcard, fits in/the
size of a CD bay, with mic level and line controls/sockets, and various
digital I/Os.


I don't know if it's any better than the one you're using, but let me
know if it's of any use. I think you'd put it to better use than me :-)

Rob

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"Rob" wrote


I've got one you can have Keith - it's a Creative Audigy Platinum. It's
got a front panel thing that links to the PCI soundcard, fits in/the size
of a CD bay, with mic level and line controls/sockets, and various digital
I/Os.


I don't know if it's any better than the one you're using, but let me know
if it's of any use. I think you'd put it to better use than me :-)



Rob, very kind of you but I'm not sure I actually would have the use for
it - I record to the HDD via an amplifier which works very well re.
monitoring/playback &c.

The recording levels are not a serious problem - I would cut an attenuator
into the equation if I really needed it! The clipping is more a result of
sloppy recording technique where the beginning looks OK, so I bugger off and
let it get on with it only to find it went mad some time later!! (And my not
being arsed to re-record it again!! ;-)

Big thanks anyway!! :-)

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Keith G wrote:
"Rob" wrote


I've got one you can have Keith - it's a Creative Audigy Platinum. It's
got a front panel thing that links to the PCI soundcard, fits in/the size
of a CD bay, with mic level and line controls/sockets, and various digital
I/Os.


I don't know if it's any better than the one you're using, but let me know
if it's of any use. I think you'd put it to better use than me :-)



Rob, very kind of you but I'm not sure I actually would have the use for
it - I record to the HDD via an amplifier which works very well re.
monitoring/playback &c.

I thought I'd picked up that your sound card may not be best suited to
recording. It's difficult for me to tell in my case - I always used the
Creative because it sounded a fair bit better (than onboard D-A) for
playback. So having committed to the Creative for playback, I then used
it for recording. I now use a Mac which has digital I/O, so I no longer
need a PC sound card.

The recording levels are not a serious problem - I would cut an attenuator
into the equation if I really needed it! The clipping is more a result of
sloppy recording technique where the beginning looks OK, so I bugger off and
let it get on with it only to find it went mad some time later!! (And my not
being arsed to re-record it again!! ;-)

I'm with you on all that. In fact the front panel is just a convenience
and I haven't bothered fitting it for a while. You can plug stuff in and
out without crawling around the back of the computer, plus the level
control gives a bit more, um, control ;-)

Big thanks anyway!! :-)

No worries! Thought I'd offer it before consigning to ebay.