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Old October 4th 06, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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Just two days now until I'm invited to the London offices of What
Hi-Fi to "....see and hear the differences cables can make to a
system." That "see" worries me a little. But I'll try to arrive
with an open mind. Report will follow.
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Old October 4th 06, 06:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:54:39 +0100, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:


Just two days now until I'm invited to the London offices of What
Hi-Fi to "....see and hear the differences cables can make to a
system." That "see" worries me a little. But I'll try to arrive
with an open mind. Report will follow.


At best the cables can be so incredibly mediocre that they fail to handle
high audio frequencies, muffle the sound, and give that much sought by
audiofiles "warm" sound to help CDs sound like LPs.

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Old October 5th 06, 01:49 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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AZ Nomad wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:54:39 +0100, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

Just two days now until I'm invited to the London offices of What
Hi-Fi to "....see and hear the differences cables can make to a
system." That "see" worries me a little. But I'll try to arrive
with an open mind. Report will follow.


At best the cables can be so incredibly mediocre that they fail to handle
high audio frequencies, muffle the sound, and give that much sought by
audiofiles "warm" sound to help CDs sound like LPs.


They'd have to be shockingly mediocre to do that.

Graham


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Old October 5th 06, 11:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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Be sure to tell us about the plugs and sockets as well - were they gold
or silver plated, locking or non-locking, crimped or soldered. And
coming on to the solder, the percentage of silver content and country
of origin. You could probably use Anova to do the calculations of
differential benefit, but we will expect nothing less! No unscientific
listening tests - we want volt meters, ammeters, oscilloscopes,
stethoscopes, microscopes, PET scans, CAT scans and carbon dating.
Plus, in case audio is an art form we will need artists impressions and
an existentialist philosophic profile of the event. Andy

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Old October 5th 06, 03:39 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Andy Evans" wrote in message
oups.com...

Be sure to tell us about the plugs and sockets as well - were they gold
or silver plated, locking or non-locking, crimped or soldered. And
coming on to the solder, the percentage of silver content and country
of origin. You could probably use Anova to do the calculations of
differential benefit, but we will expect nothing less! No unscientific
listening tests - we want volt meters, ammeters, oscilloscopes,
stethoscopes, microscopes, PET scans, CAT scans and carbon dating.
Plus, in case audio is an art form we will need artists impressions and
an existentialist philosophic profile of the event. Andy




You don't carbon dating - what you do need is cables made from copper ripped
out of sunken WW1 dreadnoughts for low, pre-Hiroshima levels of radioactive
contamination...



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Old October 5th 06, 05:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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You don't carbon dating - what you do need is cables made from copper
ripped
out of sunken WW1 dreadnoughts for low, pre-Hiroshima levels of
radioactive
contamination

I'd forgotten that aspect - you're quite right. NOS copper,
aquagenically treated will enhance both the mids and the high
frequencies. Add 200% to the price. Andy

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Old October 5th 06, 06:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches
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"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Andy Evans" wrote in message
oups.com...

Be sure to tell us about the plugs and sockets as well - were they gold
or silver plated, locking or non-locking, crimped or soldered. And
coming on to the solder, the percentage of silver content and country
of origin. You could probably use Anova to do the calculations of
differential benefit, but we will expect nothing less! No unscientific
listening tests - we want volt meters, ammeters, oscilloscopes,
stethoscopes, microscopes, PET scans, CAT scans and carbon dating.
Plus, in case audio is an art form we will need artists impressions and
an existentialist philosophic profile of the event. Andy




You don't carbon dating - what you do need is cables made from copper
ripped out of sunken WW1 dreadnoughts for low, pre-Hiroshima levels of
radioactive contamination...


Now.As it 'appens, I have a couple of 10m lengths on
the shelf, taken from WW1 battleship. It was in fact the
Yorkshire built sister ship to HMS Dreadnought, named
HMS Dreadnowt, which was launched from Scarborough Pier
on Aug 1st 1907. It's ten twelve inch guns could sink a whelk
stall with a single salvo from 1800 yards.







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Old October 5th 06, 10:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andy Evans
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It's ten twelve inch guns could sink a whelk stall with a single salvo
from 1800 yards.

Not a wise move - the punitive powers of whelks are widely
underestimated. Whelks, as you already know, are scavengers and
carnivores, equipped with an extensible proboscis, tipped with a
filelike radula, with which they bore holes through the shells of crabs
and lobsters, and a large, muscular foot with which they hold their
victims. Reports indicate a maximum length of 16 in. (40.6 cm) for the
knobbed whelk but off Hiroshima grow beds of the so-called "Hara-Kiri"
whelk, genetically altered by radioactivity over innumerable
generations. Anectotally, they are reputed to be able to bore a hole in
the underwater plating of, for instance, a floating warship - say for
the sake of argument, the size of the Dreadnought. Marine biologists
examining their brains have detected unusual activity in that area
which in humans is associated with senseless and impulsive acts of
revenge.

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Old October 6th 06, 10:19 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches
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"Andy Evans" wrote in message
oups.com...
It's ten twelve inch guns could sink a whelk stall with a single salvo
from 1800 yards.

Not a wise move - the punitive powers of whelks are widely
underestimated. Whelks, as you already know, are scavengers and
carnivores, equipped with an extensible proboscis, tipped with a
filelike radula, with which they bore holes through the shells of crabs
and lobsters, and a large, muscular foot with which they hold their
victims. Reports indicate a maximum length of 16 in. (40.6 cm) for the
knobbed whelk but off Hiroshima grow beds of the so-called "Hara-Kiri"
whelk, genetically altered by radioactivity over innumerable
generations. Anectotally, they are reputed to be able to bore a hole in
the underwater plating of, for instance, a floating warship - say for
the sake of argument, the size of the Dreadnought.


Yes indeed. The whelk is not a force to be trifled with. But however,
if you look at Amendment 117B of the Rules of Engagement for
HM battleships, as drawn up by the Admiralty in 1906, you will find that
even back in the pre WW1 days, although phosgene gas had still to be
invented, their Lordships of the Admiralty had an effective WD (whelk
deterrent) The armour plating of battle ships was to be treated with the
hardest-setting substance known to man, so hard that even
the Hara-Kiri whelk would dent its proboscis in efforts of penetration.
The substance used is found in abundance in all ships messes, and land based
military canteens. It is commonly known as cook-house mashed potato.
The most resilient variant is to be found in the corporals' mess at the
Brigade
of Guards depot at Pirbright.

Marine biologists
examining their brains have detected unusual activity in that area
which in humans is associated with senseless and impulsive acts of
revenge.


Now prevalent in most British high streets and bus shelters after the
pubs close:-)

Iain


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Old October 8th 06, 03:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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Here's what happened
http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/cables.html
 




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