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Dave Plowman October 22nd 03 11:43 PM

Sound card to amp?
 
In article ,
Jim H wrote:
The stuff I use is lead-free. It was on special offer so hardly more
expensive than 60/40. It contains some small amount of silver (10%). I
quite like using it - Lead free has a lower melting point, so easier to
do large joints without a high power iron.


Although lead free is common for mechanical soldering - like copper tube -
I understood the need for it was giving the electronics industry real
headaches. ;-)

--
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic November 6th 03 09:00 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

================================================== ==========================
=====


Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas






Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic November 6th 03 09:00 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

================================================== ==========================
=====


Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas






Laurence Payne November 6th 03 11:25 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?

Laurence Payne November 6th 03 11:25 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?

Ronald November 7th 03 03:58 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
Based on your question of the distortion, you want to make music with it...
Go for the M-audio Audiophile 24/96, highly spec'd and even cheaper than the
audigy.
Check on-line reviews for it or www.m-audio.com



"Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic" schreef in bericht
hlink.net...
below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their

own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer

?


================================================== ==========================
=====


Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas








Ronald November 7th 03 03:58 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
Based on your question of the distortion, you want to make music with it...
Go for the M-audio Audiophile 24/96, highly spec'd and even cheaper than the
audigy.
Check on-line reviews for it or www.m-audio.com



"Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic" schreef in bericht
hlink.net...
below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their

own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer

?


================================================== ==========================
=====


Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas








Jim H November 8th 03 05:40 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Jim H November 8th 03 05:40 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Kalman Rubinson November 8th 03 09:35 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:40:33 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote:

Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.


Where can one find these?

Kal

Kalman Rubinson November 8th 03 09:35 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:40:33 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote:

Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.


Where can one find these?

Kal

RJH November 9th 03 09:14 AM

Creative Audigy sound card
 

"Jim H" wrote in message
...
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies

of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org


Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.

b/w

Rob



RJH November 9th 03 09:14 AM

Creative Audigy sound card
 

"Jim H" wrote in message
...
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies

of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org


Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.

b/w

Rob



Laurence Payne November 9th 03 02:59 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:14:33 -0000, "RJH"
wrote:

Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.


You're still restricted to 48KHz. Be sure that won't annoy you
before buying an Audigy.



Laurence Payne November 9th 03 02:59 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:14:33 -0000, "RJH"
wrote:

Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.


You're still restricted to 48KHz. Be sure that won't annoy you
before buying an Audigy.



Kalman Rubinson November 9th 03 03:17 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:59:37 +0000, Laurence Payne
wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:14:33 -0000, "RJH"
wrote:

Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.


You're still restricted to 48KHz. Be sure that won't annoy you
before buying an Audigy.


Audigy2 came with my latest PC. Are these drivers useful for it?

Kal



Kalman Rubinson November 9th 03 03:17 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:59:37 +0000, Laurence Payne
wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:14:33 -0000, "RJH"
wrote:

Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.


You're still restricted to 48KHz. Be sure that won't annoy you
before buying an Audigy.


Audigy2 came with my latest PC. Are these drivers useful for it?

Kal



Kalman Rubinson November 9th 03 04:18 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:17:34 -0500, Kalman Rubinson
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:59:37 +0000, Laurence Payne
wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:14:33 -0000, "RJH"
wrote:

Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.


You're still restricted to 48KHz. Be sure that won't annoy you
before buying an Audigy.


Audigy2 came with my latest PC. Are these drivers useful for it?


Never mind. Found site and info. Thanks.

Kal

Kalman Rubinson November 9th 03 04:18 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:17:34 -0500, Kalman Rubinson
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:59:37 +0000, Laurence Payne
wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:14:33 -0000, "RJH"
wrote:

Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.


You're still restricted to 48KHz. Be sure that won't annoy you
before buying an Audigy.


Audigy2 came with my latest PC. Are these drivers useful for it?


Never mind. Found site and info. Thanks.

Kal

Jim H November 9th 03 10:44 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
more from the 'RJH school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:


"Jim H" wrote in message
...
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The
Mechanic" wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion
specs for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians,
it's off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful!
The interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low
frequencies

of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org


Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better
interface than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw
Kalman.

b/w

Rob



I've been quite impressed overall. I don't much care for interface
skinning and would rather have somthing more standard - on a high-res
those little controls are so difficult to drag!

Can't fault it on features though. As I think I mentioned I'm now running
audio on a sb live without any crossover other than the Frequency
Splitter DSP.

It certainly sounds different, and to my ear better, although I really
couldn't say if it is more acurate.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

Jim H November 9th 03 10:44 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 
more from the 'RJH school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:


"Jim H" wrote in message
...
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The
Mechanic" wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion
specs for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians,
it's off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful!
The interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low
frequencies

of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org


Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better
interface than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw
Kalman.

b/w

Rob



I've been quite impressed overall. I don't much care for interface
skinning and would rather have somthing more standard - on a high-res
those little controls are so difficult to drag!

Can't fault it on features though. As I think I mentioned I'm now running
audio on a sb live without any crossover other than the Frequency
Splitter DSP.

It certainly sounds different, and to my ear better, although I really
couldn't say if it is more acurate.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

J November 11th 03 04:45 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 

"RJH" wrote in message
...

"Jim H" wrote in message
...
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful!

The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies

of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org


Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better

interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.

b/w

Rob


Hey Rob, what about upgrading for music? like upgrading an Equalizer for
creative, do they offer this? I havn't seen anything yet...
Post me a message will ya?" I do know they have sound effects though,
pretty cool too, i mak my music freak out....." usually the dance music."
Thanks





J November 11th 03 04:45 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 

"RJH" wrote in message
...

"Jim H" wrote in message
...
more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?


Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful!

The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies

of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org


Thanks for that - quite a thing on my Audigy Platinum, much better

interface
than Creative's. Google search finds it straight away btw Kalman.

b/w

Rob


Hey Rob, what about upgrading for music? like upgrading an Equalizer for
creative, do they offer this? I havn't seen anything yet...
Post me a message will ya?" I do know they have sound effects though,
pretty cool too, i mak my music freak out....." usually the dance music."
Thanks





RJH November 11th 03 06:49 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 

"J" wrote in message
.. .
snip
Hey Rob, what about upgrading for music? like upgrading an Equalizer for
creative, do they offer this? I havn't seen anything yet...
Post me a message will ya?" I do know they have sound effects though,
pretty cool too, i mak my music freak out....." usually the dance music."
Thanks


Hi J - I'm not really an expert on this, I used to use the card a lot for
transferring music from LP to computer to CD, and I still use it for
listening to music. There is a 10 band equaliser in KX - right click on the
systray icon, under effects. I never got on too well with the creative
stuff - never did quite what I wanted, and I *think* the kx drivers have
made the sound clearer, at least through my Mission computer speakers ...

My latest favourite for listening to music is the latest beta of winamp 5 -
pretty nifty and the media library is a lot better.

Rob



RJH November 11th 03 06:49 PM

Creative Audigy sound card
 

"J" wrote in message
.. .
snip
Hey Rob, what about upgrading for music? like upgrading an Equalizer for
creative, do they offer this? I havn't seen anything yet...
Post me a message will ya?" I do know they have sound effects though,
pretty cool too, i mak my music freak out....." usually the dance music."
Thanks


Hi J - I'm not really an expert on this, I used to use the card a lot for
transferring music from LP to computer to CD, and I still use it for
listening to music. There is a 10 band equaliser in KX - right click on the
systray icon, under effects. I never got on too well with the creative
stuff - never did quite what I wanted, and I *think* the kx drivers have
made the sound clearer, at least through my Mission computer speakers ...

My latest favourite for listening to music is the latest beta of winamp 5 -
pretty nifty and the media library is a lot better.

Rob




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