Sound card to amp?
 

Hi group,

I recently bought myself a Creative Audigy Platinum eX, I currently have it
connected to my amp (Technics SA-DX940) via the "Front L/R" output on the
card using a jack to RCA converter cable.
The cable is very old and and poor quality.

So, the problem... Obviously both amp and soundcard support DTS, using the
current setup I can't get a 5.1 channel signal from soundcard to amp. I need
a way to do this. The external Audigy box has an optical output, but due to
the amount of bending and length required to get to the amp, I can't use it.
The Audigy also has a digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female jack
plug), the trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it, that
would've been ideal.

Can anybody think of a way to connect these two devices that would allow the
DTS signal or is it time to buy a new amp?

If it's new amp time (which I would really like to avoid), are there any
recomendations? I just need a DTS decoder and amplifier for 5 channels. I
wont bother with tuner and video in/out features of the Technics next time,
they don't get used.

Thanks very much,

Nathan

Sound card to amp?
 

"treefroginometry" wrote in message
...
Hi group,

I recently bought myself a Creative Audigy Platinum eX, I currently have
it
connected to my amp (Technics SA-DX940) via the "Front L/R" output on the
card using a jack to RCA converter cable.
The cable is very old and and poor quality.

So, the problem... Obviously both amp and soundcard support DTS, using the
current setup I can't get a 5.1 channel signal from soundcard to amp. I
need
a way to do this. The external Audigy box has an optical output, but due
to
the amount of bending and length required to get to the amp, I can't use
it.
The Audigy also has a digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female jack
plug), the trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it,
that
would've been ideal.

Can anybody think of a way to connect these two devices that would allow
the
DTS signal or is it time to buy a new amp?

If it's new amp time (which I would really like to avoid), are there any
recomendations? I just need a DTS decoder and amplifier for 5 channels. I
wont bother with tuner and video in/out features of the Technics next
time,
they don't get used.

Thanks very much,

Nathan



Sorry, I've just realised I'm as blind as a bat.

I've just spotted the Front R/L, Rear R/L and Sub/center/rear center output
jacks on the soundcard (I thought they were mic/line-in)

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Thanks,

Nathan

Sound card to amp?
 

"treefroginometry" wrote in message
...
Hi group,

I recently bought myself a Creative Audigy Platinum eX, I currently have
it
connected to my amp (Technics SA-DX940) via the "Front L/R" output on the
card using a jack to RCA converter cable.
The cable is very old and and poor quality.

So, the problem... Obviously both amp and soundcard support DTS, using the
current setup I can't get a 5.1 channel signal from soundcard to amp. I
need
a way to do this. The external Audigy box has an optical output, but due
to
the amount of bending and length required to get to the amp, I can't use
it.
The Audigy also has a digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female jack
plug), the trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it,
that
would've been ideal.

Can anybody think of a way to connect these two devices that would allow
the
DTS signal or is it time to buy a new amp?

If it's new amp time (which I would really like to avoid), are there any
recomendations? I just need a DTS decoder and amplifier for 5 channels. I
wont bother with tuner and video in/out features of the Technics next
time,
they don't get used.

Thanks very much,

Nathan



Sorry, I've just realised I'm as blind as a bat.

I've just spotted the Front R/L, Rear R/L and Sub/center/rear center output
jacks on the soundcard (I thought they were mic/line-in)

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Thanks,

Nathan

Sound card to amp?
 

treefroginometry wrote:
"treefroginometry" wrote in message
...

Hi group,

I recently bought myself a Creative Audigy Platinum eX, I currently have

it

connected to my amp (Technics SA-DX940) via the "Front L/R" output on the
card using a jack to RCA converter cable.
The cable is very old and and poor quality.

So, the problem... Obviously both amp and soundcard support DTS, using the
current setup I can't get a 5.1 channel signal from soundcard to amp. I

need

a way to do this. The external Audigy box has an optical output, but due

to

the amount of bending and length required to get to the amp, I can't use

it.

The Audigy also has a digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female jack
plug), the trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it,

that

would've been ideal.

Can anybody think of a way to connect these two devices that would allow

the

DTS signal or is it time to buy a new amp?

If it's new amp time (which I would really like to avoid), are there any
recomendations? I just need a DTS decoder and amplifier for 5 channels. I
wont bother with tuner and video in/out features of the Technics next

time,

they don't get used.

Thanks very much,

Nathan




Sorry, I've just realised I'm as blind as a bat.

I've just spotted the Front R/L, Rear R/L and Sub/center/rear center output
jacks on the soundcard (I thought they were mic/line-in)

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Thanks,

Nathan



I used Qunex J2P from www.bestpricetv.com


--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

treefroginometry wrote:
"treefroginometry" wrote in message
...

Hi group,

I recently bought myself a Creative Audigy Platinum eX, I currently have

it

connected to my amp (Technics SA-DX940) via the "Front L/R" output on the
card using a jack to RCA converter cable.
The cable is very old and and poor quality.

So, the problem... Obviously both amp and soundcard support DTS, using the
current setup I can't get a 5.1 channel signal from soundcard to amp. I

need

a way to do this. The external Audigy box has an optical output, but due

to

the amount of bending and length required to get to the amp, I can't use

it.

The Audigy also has a digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female jack
plug), the trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it,

that

would've been ideal.

Can anybody think of a way to connect these two devices that would allow

the

DTS signal or is it time to buy a new amp?

If it's new amp time (which I would really like to avoid), are there any
recomendations? I just need a DTS decoder and amplifier for 5 channels. I
wont bother with tuner and video in/out features of the Technics next

time,

they don't get used.

Thanks very much,

Nathan




Sorry, I've just realised I'm as blind as a bat.

I've just spotted the Front R/L, Rear R/L and Sub/center/rear center output
jacks on the soundcard (I thought they were mic/line-in)

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Thanks,

Nathan



I used Qunex J2P from www.bestpricetv.com


--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...
treefroginometry wrote:
"treefroginometry" wrote in message
...

Hi group,

I recently bought myself a Creative Audigy Platinum eX, I currently have

it

connected to my amp (Technics SA-DX940) via the "Front L/R" output on
the
card using a jack to RCA converter cable.
The cable is very old and and poor quality.

So, the problem... Obviously both amp and soundcard support DTS, using
the
current setup I can't get a 5.1 channel signal from soundcard to amp. I

need

a way to do this. The external Audigy box has an optical output, but due

to

the amount of bending and length required to get to the amp, I can't use

it.

The Audigy also has a digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female
jack
plug), the trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it,

that

would've been ideal.

Can anybody think of a way to connect these two devices that would allow

the

DTS signal or is it time to buy a new amp?

If it's new amp time (which I would really like to avoid), are there any
recomendations? I just need a DTS decoder and amplifier for 5 channels.
I
wont bother with tuner and video in/out features of the Technics next

time,

they don't get used.

Thanks very much,

Nathan




Sorry, I've just realised I'm as blind as a bat.

I've just spotted the Front R/L, Rear R/L and Sub/center/rear center
output
jacks on the soundcard (I thought they were mic/line-in)

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Thanks,

Nathan



I used Qunex J2P from www.bestpricetv.com


--
Nick H (UK)


Thanks Nick, I've just placed an order.

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...
treefroginometry wrote:
"treefroginometry" wrote in message
...

Hi group,

I recently bought myself a Creative Audigy Platinum eX, I currently have

it

connected to my amp (Technics SA-DX940) via the "Front L/R" output on
the
card using a jack to RCA converter cable.
The cable is very old and and poor quality.

So, the problem... Obviously both amp and soundcard support DTS, using
the
current setup I can't get a 5.1 channel signal from soundcard to amp. I

need

a way to do this. The external Audigy box has an optical output, but due

to

the amount of bending and length required to get to the amp, I can't use

it.

The Audigy also has a digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female
jack
plug), the trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it,

that

would've been ideal.

Can anybody think of a way to connect these two devices that would allow

the

DTS signal or is it time to buy a new amp?

If it's new amp time (which I would really like to avoid), are there any
recomendations? I just need a DTS decoder and amplifier for 5 channels.
I
wont bother with tuner and video in/out features of the Technics next

time,

they don't get used.

Thanks very much,

Nathan




Sorry, I've just realised I'm as blind as a bat.

I've just spotted the Front R/L, Rear R/L and Sub/center/rear center
output
jacks on the soundcard (I thought they were mic/line-in)

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Thanks,

Nathan



I used Qunex J2P from www.bestpricetv.com


--
Nick H (UK)


Thanks Nick, I've just placed an order.

Sound card to amp?
 

In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:
So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.

--
*I don't work here. I'm a consultant

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Sound card to amp?
 

In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:
So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.

--
*I don't work here. I'm a consultant

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Sound card to amp?
 

"treefroginometry" wrote in message


The Audigy also has a
digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female jack plug), the
trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it, that
would've been ideal.

Coax - optical converters are available from a number of sources.

Sound card to amp?
 

"treefroginometry" wrote in message


The Audigy also has a
digital (coaxial?) output (looks like a female jack plug), the
trouble is, the amp doesn't appear to have an input for it, that
would've been ideal.

Coax - optical converters are available from a number of sources.

Sound card to amp?
 

Dave Plowman wrote:
In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?


Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.


I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))



--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

Dave Plowman wrote:
In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?


Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.


I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))



--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)

Sound card to amp?
 

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote:

Dave Plowman wrote:
In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?


Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.


I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))

Does it matter? We're only talking about a Soundblaster under a fancy
name here - even the cheapest cables are good enough for that.

Cheers.

James.

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote:

Dave Plowman wrote:
In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:

So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?


Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.


I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))

Does it matter? We're only talking about a Soundblaster under a fancy
name here - even the cheapest cables are good enough for that.

Cheers.

James.

Sound card to amp?
 

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:26:53 +0100
James Perrett wrote:

I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))

Does it matter? We're only talking about a Soundblaster under a fancy
name here - even the cheapest cables are good enough for that.

Actually, the 'Live!' range was pretty good.

--
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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

Sound card to amp?
 

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:26:53 +0100
James Perrett wrote:

I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))

Does it matter? We're only talking about a Soundblaster under a fancy
name here - even the cheapest cables are good enough for that.

Actually, the 'Live!' range was pretty good.

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

Sound card to amp?
 

James Perrett wrote:
"Nick H (UK)" wrote:

Dave Plowman wrote:

In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?


Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.


I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))


Does it matter? We're only talking about a Soundblaster under a fancy
name here - even the cheapest cables are good enough for that.

Maybe not... I changed my cables after upgrading to an RME card. The
card change made a *huge* difference. I can't claim to hear any
difference from the cable, but having spent so much on the card I wanted
to give it the best chance. I chose QED as being value-for-mony quality
products (in my small experience) without going in for silly-money cables.


Cheers.

James.



--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

James Perrett wrote:
"Nick H (UK)" wrote:

Dave Plowman wrote:

In article ,
treefroginometry wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?


Maplin. They do them with both male and female phonos so you can extend
them with phono to phono.


I replaced my Maplin cables with the Qunex ones. They cost more and
they're prettier so... ;-))))


Does it matter? We're only talking about a Soundblaster under a fancy
name here - even the cheapest cables are good enough for that.

Maybe not... I changed my cables after upgrading to an RME card. The
card change made a *huge* difference. I can't claim to hear any
difference from the cable, but having spent so much on the card I wanted
to give it the best chance. I chose QED as being value-for-mony quality
products (in my small experience) without going in for silly-money cables.


Cheers.

James.



--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade oxygen-free
copper with silver solder and gold and platinum points.
Its 20 years old and cost about $1100 back then. Nothing special for its
class. ALL mid-fi equipment is made that way unless its one of those
inexpensive but sound good units like Protech or Rotel.

If you have a mass-consumer made component like Onkyo, Yamaha, JVC, Sony and
so on then you are correct. They basically use lamp cord inside.


"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)

Sound card to amp?
 

not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade oxygen-free
copper with silver solder and gold and platinum points.
Its 20 years old and cost about $1100 back then. Nothing special for its
class. ALL mid-fi equipment is made that way unless its one of those
inexpensive but sound good units like Protech or Rotel.

If you have a mass-consumer made component like Onkyo, Yamaha, JVC, Sony and
so on then you are correct. They basically use lamp cord inside.


"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably
good
quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)

Sound card to amp?
 

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:02:06 GMT
"fish" wrote:

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free
copper with silver solder and gold and platinum points.

ROTFL. what are you using it for? the X and Y amps in a 'scope?


--
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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

Sound card to amp?
 

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:02:06 GMT
"fish" wrote:

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free
copper with silver solder and gold and platinum points.

ROTFL. what are you using it for? the X and Y amps in a 'scope?


--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

Sound card to amp?
 

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade oxygen-free
copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

and gold and platinum points.
Its 20 years old and cost about $1100 back then. Nothing special for its
class. ALL mid-fi equipment is made that way unless its one of those
inexpensive but sound good units like Protech or Rotel.

If you have a mass-consumer made component like Onkyo, Yamaha, JVC, Sony and
so on then you are correct. They basically use lamp cord inside.


"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably

good

quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)







--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade oxygen-free
copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

and gold and platinum points.
Its 20 years old and cost about $1100 back then. Nothing special for its
class. ALL mid-fi equipment is made that way unless its one of those
inexpensive but sound good units like Protech or Rotel.

If you have a mass-consumer made component like Onkyo, Yamaha, JVC, Sony and
so on then you are correct. They basically use lamp cord inside.


"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably

good

quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)







--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

Silver solder is used in MANY electronic components.
Its obviously an alloy that has superior conductivity as does gold and
platinum.




"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...
fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free
copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

and gold and platinum points.
Its 20 years old and cost about $1100 back then. Nothing special for its
class. ALL mid-fi equipment is made that way unless its one of those
inexpensive but sound good units like Protech or Rotel.

If you have a mass-consumer made component like Onkyo, Yamaha, JVC, Sony
and
so on then you are correct. They basically use lamp cord inside.


"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
...

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably

good

quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)







--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

Silver solder is used in MANY electronic components.
Its obviously an alloy that has superior conductivity as does gold and
platinum.




"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message
...
fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free
copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

and gold and platinum points.
Its 20 years old and cost about $1100 back then. Nothing special for its
class. ALL mid-fi equipment is made that way unless its one of those
inexpensive but sound good units like Protech or Rotel.

If you have a mass-consumer made component like Onkyo, Yamaha, JVC, Sony
and
so on then you are correct. They basically use lamp cord inside.


"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
...

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:16:28 +0100, "treefroginometry"
wrote:


So, a change of question. Does anybody know where I can get reasonably

good

quality jack to RCA leads from, preferably in the UK?

Maplins. Or make your own. If tempted to pay over the odds for
"audiophile" cable, just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.
You won't find anything esoteric there :-)







--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering. Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering. Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.

Sound card to amp?
 

`
Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

In this context, it usually means ordinary solder with 2% silver added so as
not to leach silver from the connection.

Norm Strong

Sound card to amp?
 

`
Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

In this context, it usually means ordinary solder with 2% silver added so as
not to leach silver from the connection.

Norm Strong

Sound card to amp?
 

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message


fish wrote:

not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick


Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering. Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.



So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Does it look different? Is it possible to look inside the kit and say,
"Ahh, good, *silver* solder"?


--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message


fish wrote:

not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick


Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering. Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.



So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Does it look different? Is it possible to look inside the kit and say,
"Ahh, good, *silver* solder"?


--
Nick H (UK)

Sound card to amp?
 

you may be correct, most audiophile equipment manufacturers sell snake oil.

I believe anything that reduces corrosion can last longer. The gold and
platinum pots have hardly been cleaned over the least 20 years and they are
very silent. I have also never had an issue with lose of ground or
connection and the unit has been moved (tossed) around quite a bit.

But its all BS. I mean, monster cable or lamp-cord, same ****e! Aluminum
couplings from Radio Shack are not any less effective as gold-plated silver
ones from the 'audiophile' store. It's amazing how gullible people are. Make
a $269 interconnect and they will buy it. Hell, I bet you can switch it with
that spaghetti string crap that RCA ships with its $69 DVD players sold
everywhere from you local supermarket to the nationwide Electronics-R-Us
stores and they will never know. Stick it in a thick rubber case and tell
them it was $499 and they will tell you how much better is sounds, right?
Interconnects have no effects on the sound texture at all and for that
matter, the internal wiring of any component can be cheapened to help reduce
overall consumer cost. Same for power transformers.

Yup, snake oil and hair tonic.


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering.
Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.

Sound card to amp?
 

you may be correct, most audiophile equipment manufacturers sell snake oil.

I believe anything that reduces corrosion can last longer. The gold and
platinum pots have hardly been cleaned over the least 20 years and they are
very silent. I have also never had an issue with lose of ground or
connection and the unit has been moved (tossed) around quite a bit.

But its all BS. I mean, monster cable or lamp-cord, same ****e! Aluminum
couplings from Radio Shack are not any less effective as gold-plated silver
ones from the 'audiophile' store. It's amazing how gullible people are. Make
a $269 interconnect and they will buy it. Hell, I bet you can switch it with
that spaghetti string crap that RCA ships with its $69 DVD players sold
everywhere from you local supermarket to the nationwide Electronics-R-Us
stores and they will never know. Stick it in a thick rubber case and tell
them it was $499 and they will tell you how much better is sounds, right?
Interconnects have no effects on the sound texture at all and for that
matter, the internal wiring of any component can be cheapened to help reduce
overall consumer cost. Same for power transformers.

Yup, snake oil and hair tonic.


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

fish wrote:
not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver was
originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during soldering.
Since
then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have been made about it.

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message


fish wrote:

not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know
something about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches
and brazing temperatures i.e. red-hot metal. What does it mean in
this context? Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver
was originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during
soldering. Since then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have
been made about it.

So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Probably, although the melting points of alloys seem to be hard to predict.
I think that materials cost has more influence on any decisions to minimize
the amount of silver.

Does it look different? Is it possible to look inside the kit and say,
"Ahh, good, *silver* solder"?

AFAIK, no. You can find nice silvery connections in products made with
ordinary solder.

The point is that other than the stated benefit which relates mostly to
soldering RF circuitry (commonly silver-plated), there are no known audible
or measurable benefits to using silver-enriched tin-lead solder to wire up
audio gear.

Here's a list of some varied solder alloys, and the legitimate claims that
can be made for them:

http://www.toaei.com/Insulation/alloy_solder.htm

Sound card to amp?
 

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Nick H (UK)" wrote in message


fish wrote:

not inside my amp.

All the wiring and control pods in my amp are very high grade
oxygen-free copper with silver solder

Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know
something about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches
and brazing temperatures i.e. red-hot metal. What does it mean in
this context? Nick

Tin-lead solder with a few percent of silver. I believe the silver
was originally added to reduce erosion of silver plating during
soldering. Since then all sorts of ignorant snake-oil claims have
been made about it.

So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Probably, although the melting points of alloys seem to be hard to predict.
I think that materials cost has more influence on any decisions to minimize
the amount of silver.

Does it look different? Is it possible to look inside the kit and say,
"Ahh, good, *silver* solder"?

AFAIK, no. You can find nice silvery connections in products made with
ordinary solder.

The point is that other than the stated benefit which relates mostly to
soldering RF circuitry (commonly silver-plated), there are no known audible
or measurable benefits to using silver-enriched tin-lead solder to wire up
audio gear.

Here's a list of some varied solder alloys, and the legitimate claims that
can be made for them:

http://www.toaei.com/Insulation/alloy_solder.htm

Sound card to amp?
 

so then the gold and platinum-plated stuff is done only to reduce corrosion?

I have played the cable and interconnect game and have found that the any
good quality interconnect sounds as good as expensive ones. I have a friend
that buys into all that crap, including $1200 power conditioners. LOL!

My original comments was in response to:
'...just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.You won't find anything
esoteric there :-)...'

That's not entirely true. Many mid to hi end manufacturers use loads of
esoteric stuff inside too.



"Phil" wrote in message
...
`
Don't know anything about wiring or electronics, but do know something
about jewelry. Silver solder, to me, means blowtorches and brazing
temperatures ie red-hot metal. What does it mean in this context?
Nick

In this context, it usually means ordinary solder with 2% silver added so
as
not to leach silver from the connection.

Norm Strong