more from the 'Stimpy school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

*Geeks shall inherit the earth *

No they won't. People with big companies shall inherit the earth

Such as Bill Gates?

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Jim H jh
@333
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McIntosh
Aragon
Conrad Johnson
Dynoco
Kyocera
Rotel

to name just a few. i guess it also depends on what you consider esoteric.
how about just stuff you would never find in a sony, pioneer, yamaha or any
other asian made mass-consumer products.



"Stimpy" wrote in message
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"fish" wrote in message
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My original comments was in response to:
'...just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.You won't find
anything
esoteric there :-)...'

That's not entirely true. Many mid to hi end manufacturers use loads of
esoteric stuff inside too.

Yeah right... IMNSHE they all pretty much use 'mains' wire - please give
us
an example of a mid range manufacturer who uses 'esoteric stuff inside.

McIntosh
Aragon
Conrad Johnson
Dynoco
Kyocera
Rotel

to name just a few. i guess it also depends on what you consider esoteric.
how about just stuff you would never find in a sony, pioneer, yamaha or any
other asian made mass-consumer products.



"Stimpy" wrote in message
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"fish" wrote in message
et...

My original comments was in response to:
'...just have a look inside the box of your amp etc.You won't find
anything
esoteric there :-)...'

That's not entirely true. Many mid to hi end manufacturers use loads of
esoteric stuff inside too.

Yeah right... IMNSHE they all pretty much use 'mains' wire - please give
us
an example of a mid range manufacturer who uses 'esoteric stuff inside.

"fish" wrote in message
. net...
McIntosh
Aragon
Conrad Johnson
Dynoco
Kyocera
Rotel

to name just a few. i guess it also depends on what you consider esoteric.
how about just stuff you would never find in a sony, pioneer, yamaha or
any
other asian made mass-consumer products.

I suppose, by 'mid range', I was referring to the 'asian made mass-consumer
products' you mentioned. I'm sure none of those manufacturers use anything
more than the cheapest wiring they can get away with


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please treat the above as merely drunken ranting.

I apologise in advance for any offence caused :-)

"fish" wrote in message
. net...
McIntosh
Aragon
Conrad Johnson
Dynoco
Kyocera
Rotel

to name just a few. i guess it also depends on what you consider esoteric.
how about just stuff you would never find in a sony, pioneer, yamaha or
any
other asian made mass-consumer products.

I suppose, by 'mid range', I was referring to the 'asian made mass-consumer
products' you mentioned. I'm sure none of those manufacturers use anything
more than the cheapest wiring they can get away with


--
The presence of this sig indicates that I'm under the influence of excess
alcohol. Until I'm sober enough to remember to switch this sig file off,
please treat the above as merely drunken ranting.

I apologise in advance for any offence caused :-)

"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
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In article ,
Nick H (UK) wrote:
So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Alloys are strange. It's perfectly possible for an alloy to have a lower
melting point then any of the pure metals.

I think that's universal. So far as I know, every alloy melts at a
temperature below a straight line connecting the melting points of the two
components (for 2-component alloys at any rate.) The lowest possible
melting point is known as a eutectic alloy.

Norm Strong

"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Nick H (UK) wrote:
So it's the usual stuff with just a little bit silver added. I would
guess that it would have to be a very very tiny amount not to take the
melting pint over what can be achieved with a soldering iron.

Alloys are strange. It's perfectly possible for an alloy to have a lower
melting point then any of the pure metals.

I think that's universal. So far as I know, every alloy melts at a
temperature below a straight line connecting the melting points of the two
components (for 2-component alloys at any rate.) The lowest possible
melting point is known as a eutectic alloy.

Norm Strong

In article ,
Jim H wrote:
True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes
whenever I need a new cable.

I thought the sort of solder for electrical work that contains a small
amount of silver also contains the usual amount of lead?

Besides, it's the first I've heard of the lead in solder being a health
hazard under normal use. The flux, yes.

Hasn't lead got to be a dust or actually incinerated before it's a hazard
to breathe?

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*I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

In article ,
Jim H wrote:
True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes
whenever I need a new cable.

I thought the sort of solder for electrical work that contains a small
amount of silver also contains the usual amount of lead?

Besides, it's the first I've heard of the lead in solder being a health
hazard under normal use. The flux, yes.

Hasn't lead got to be a dust or actually incinerated before it's a hazard
to breathe?

--
*I'm not as think as you drunk I am.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

more from the 'Dave Plowman school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

In article ,
Jim H wrote:
True, but there are also valid resons for it's use. My solder contains
silver because I'd rather not take a lungfull of toxic lead fumes
whenever I need a new cable.

I thought the sort of solder for electrical work that contains a small
amount of silver also contains the usual amount of lead?

My mistake. It seems all lead-free is silver, but not all silver is lead-
free.

Besides, it's the first I've heard of the lead in solder being a health
hazard under normal use. The flux, yes.

Hasn't lead got to be a dust or actually incinerated before it's a hazard
to breathe?

Not sure. I've always been tought to try not to breathe the fumes from the
standard 60/40 stuff. Would be interesting to hear if they actually are
harmful.

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Jim H jh
@333
.org