In article ,
Jim H wrote:
The stuff I use is lead-free. It was on special offer so hardly more
expensive than 60/40. It contains some small amount of silver (10%). I
quite like using it - Lead free has a lower melting point, so easier to
do large joints without a high power iron.

Although lead free is common for mechanical soldering - like copper tube -
I understood the need for it was giving the electronics industry real
headaches. ;-)

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*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

================================================== ==========================
=====


Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?

Based on your question of the distortion, you want to make music with it...
Go for the M-audio Audiophile 24/96, highly spec'd and even cheaper than the
audigy.
Check on-line reviews for it or www.m-audio.com



"Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic" schreef in bericht
hlink.net...
below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their
own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer
?


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=====


Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas

Based on your question of the distortion, you want to make music with it...
Go for the M-audio Audiophile 24/96, highly spec'd and even cheaper than the
audigy.
Check on-line reviews for it or www.m-audio.com



"Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic" schreef in bericht
hlink.net...
below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a purchase of
their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup .......
these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs for their
own
audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China manufacturer
?


================================================== ==========================
=====


Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:45:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Creative Americas Technical Support"

To: "BT"
Subject: Product information (Inside Sales) (KMM1908862I30L0KM)

Dear Bruce,

We regret to inform you that we do not have the spec for Total IM and HM
distortion at rated output from
20-20kHz.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondences when
replying to this email.

Best Regards

Ang Chai Soon
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas

more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?

Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

more from the 'Laurence Payne school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:00:30 GMT, "Charles Bronson aka The Mechanic"
wrote:

below ........ email I sent to Creative Labs while pondering a
purchase of their $200 audio computer interface sound card setup
....... these idiots can not even tell me the friggin distortion specs
for their own audio equipment.

Can anyone suggest a high quality sound card from a non China
manufacturer ?

The Audigy may be suitable for your needs, and includes a lot of
features useful to the general user and gamer. For musicians, it's
off the bottom of the scale. What 's your intended use?

Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org

On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:40:33 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote:

Have you tried an Audigy with the project kx drivers ? Very powerful! The
interface can be difficult but that kinda comes with the power

For a start it improves overall THD etc by reversing front and rear
outputs. ATM I'm experimenting with bi-amping by sending low frequencies of
a stereo source to the 'front' output and high to the 'back', with
interesting results.

Where can one find these?

Kal