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Old November 20th 06, 05:06 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
M Wright
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Hi just purchased from a market the above Pre & Power Amp very cheap

I remember these were quality Amps, I had one of their Signal Generators
years ago, made in the same case as the P51

Question is I have Kef 105 series3 Speakers these are rated at 4 ohms
and current greedy , so I am reluctant to try them,

Anybody driven these Amps hard into 4 ohms and did they cope OK

Also I know they are rare and sort after ,what do you think would be a
sensible reserve on Ebay, should I sell them

TYIA

Later

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Old November 20th 06, 07:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rob
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M Wright wrote:

Hi just purchased from a market the above Pre & Power Amp very cheap

I remember these were quality Amps, I had one of their Signal Generators
years ago, made in the same case as the P51

Question is I have Kef 105 series3 Speakers these are rated at 4 ohms
and current greedy , so I am reluctant to try them,

Anybody driven these Amps hard into 4 ohms and did they cope OK

Also I know they are rare and sort after ,what do you think would be a
sensible reserve on Ebay, should I sell them

TYIA

Later


Have a look at 120035205868 on ebay - I sold a set recently for 250UKP.
I gather the class A versions are more sought after.

I thought they were fine with some pretty hard to drive Dynaudio 42s,
but not up to the reference that is valve :-)

If you want manuals I can email electronic copies to you - there's quite
a bit about the technical do-das.

Rob
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Old November 20th 06, 09:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
M Wright
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In article , Rob
writes
M Wright wrote:
Hi just purchased from a market the above Pre & Power Amp very cheap
I remember these were quality Amps, I had one of their Signal
Generators years ago, made in the same case as the P51
Question is I have Kef 105 series3 Speakers these are rated at 4
ohms and current greedy , so I am reluctant to try them,
Anybody driven these Amps hard into 4 ohms and did they cope OK
Also I know they are rare and sort after ,what do you think would be
a sensible reserve on Ebay, should I sell them
TYIA
Later


Have a look at 120035205868 on ebay - I sold a set recently for 250UKP.
I gather the class A versions are more sought after.

I thought they were fine with some pretty hard to drive Dynaudio 42s,
but not up to the reference that is valve :-)

If you want manuals I can email electronic copies to you - there's
quite a bit about the technical do-das.

Rob



Hi Thanks for your reply, those were yours were they , thought they go
for more than that, this one went for 700 AU dollars power amp alone
http://www.decibelhifi.com.au/category6_3.htm

I have the silver C21 Pre Amp so might make a slight difference

In 1977 Myself and a friend started Enigma Audio in Hove, with the
Enigma Variations range ,and Sugden ,Quad ,Lecson, and Naim were some
of the competition, I seem to remember our 100 watt Power Amp, in mine,
and others peoples opinion, knocked the socks of it for bass response
and shear grunt, mind you we had a huge power supply, DC coupled output
,and mj10005x and the other polarity output devices,

Our amp could double power into 4 ohms , this has not got the output
stage to handle that sort of power , the Supply Fuses are only 2 amp ,
Are your Dynaudio 8 ohm or 4

Manuals would be great please ,that is a working addy ,

Do you need power and the LT from power amp connected for the preamp to
function , seems odd ?

Many thanks once more, just noticed clock , time for a beer :-)

Later

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Old November 21st 06, 08:23 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf
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In article , Rob
wrote:


If you want manuals I can email electronic copies to you - there's quite
a bit about the technical do-das.


Any chance I could have a copy? :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html
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Old November 22nd 06, 07:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rob
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Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:


If you want manuals I can email electronic copies to you - there's quite
a bit about the technical do-das.


Any chance I could have a copy? :-)

Slainte,

Jim


No problem both - I'll post them on a web page at the w/e.
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Old November 24th 06, 07:07 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rob
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Rob wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:


If you want manuals I can email electronic copies to you - there's quite
a bit about the technical do-das.


Any chance I could have a copy? :-)

Slainte,

Jim


No problem both - I'll post them on a web page at the w/e.


Posted at:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/sugdenc51andp51
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Old November 25th 06, 10:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
M Wright
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Default sugden c51 p51

In article , Rob
writes
Rob wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:


If you want manuals I can email electronic copies to you - there's quite
a bit about the technical do-das.

Any chance I could have a copy? :-)

Slainte,

Jim

No problem both - I'll post them on a web page at the w/e.


Posted at:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/sugdenc51andp51


Hi Received With Thanks

Later
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Old November 25th 06, 12:27 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf
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Default sugden c51 p51

In article , Rob
wrote:
Rob wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Rob
wrote:


If you want manuals I can email electronic copies to you - there's
quite a bit about the technical do-das.

Any chance I could have a copy? :-)



Posted at:


http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/sugdenc51andp51


I seem to be having some problems with fetching the above list of files.

The fetches seem to terminate prematurely, typically after just over 350 kb
for a file have been downloaded. Tried connecting at various times, and
using two different browsers, with the same problem.

I have managed to get the first three files OK, but as yet have been unable
to get a complete copy of the final two.

Also, the final file is reported by software as being a 1660kb total.

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html
 




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