Keith G wrote:
"jasee" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
jasee wrote:
It contains the Numark Groovetool cartridge (or similar) 'A high
value, adjustable cartridge in a traditional headshell mount design
-- great sound, great tracking! 6 mil spherical diamond cartridge
with 2.5g to
3.5g tracking force.' which should do wonders for your record
collection :-)
Must be a ceramic as the output of anything else wouldn't be high
enough, I think.
If it's USB surely it has a built in preamp and A-D convertor?
Yes, of course. (I'd forgotten USB) But at about £12 for the cartridge, I
can't imagine it would be even moving magnet.


The Goldring Elan retails for about 19 quid retail - my local telly shop
pays about 7 quid each for them in boxes of a dozen or so (set in rows, in
polystyrene) and sells a continuous stream of them to people wanting 'a new
cartridge'.

I was given one to fit to a Thorens that I borrowed to audition and it
sounded perfectly fine, see:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/elan.JPG



I think I paid a little over 20 quid for an Ortofon OM5E, which sounds
perfectly OK on my (cheap) turntable.

Matt

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
jasee wrote:
It contains the Numark Groovetool cartridge (or similar) 'A high value,
adjustable cartridge in a traditional headshell mount design -- great
sound, great tracking! 6 mil spherical diamond cartridge with 2.5g to
3.5g tracking force.' which should do wonders for your record
collection :-)

Must be a ceramic as the output of anything else wouldn't be high
enough, I think.

If it's USB surely it has a built in preamp and A-D convertor?


The preamp and converter would be normally built into the turntable
itself, but how about if some enterprising manufacturer built a
cartridge with a direct digital output? Firewire, USB or S/PDIF? Built
in RIAA equilisation?

And, could use the standard arm wiring to power/connect the output.

What an idea for retrofitting old decks!

:-)

[If someone patents this.... er.... I mentioned it first, and may be
after you...!]

--
Adrian C

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:24:41 -0000, "jasee"
wrote:

It contains the Numark Groovetool cartridge (or similar) 'A high value,
adjustable cartridge in a traditional headshell mount design -- great sound,
great tracking! 6 mil spherical diamond cartridge with 2.5g to 3.5g tracking
force.' which should do wonders for your record collection :-)

Must be a ceramic as the output of anything else wouldn't be high enough, I
think.

High enough for what? The preamp driving the ADC? What requirement
are you assuming?

In article ,
Adrian C wrote:
If it's USB surely it has a built in preamp and A-D convertor?


The preamp and converter would be normally built into the turntable
itself, but how about if some enterprising manufacturer built a
cartridge with a direct digital output? Firewire, USB or S/PDIF? Built
in RIAA equilisation?

But why add the weight of the electronics where you don't want it?

And, could use the standard arm wiring to power/connect the output.

Standard wiring? You'd need to get power up there.

What an idea for retrofitting old decks!

:-)

[If someone patents this.... er.... I mentioned it first, and may be
after you...!]

You should be safe enough. ;-)

--
*How much deeper would the oceans be without sponges? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:47:03 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

The preamp and converter would be normally built into the turntable
itself, but how about if some enterprising manufacturer built a
cartridge with a direct digital output? Firewire, USB or S/PDIF? Built
in RIAA equilisation?

But why add the weight of the electronics where you don't want it?

It might be a single-chip solution. No need to mount it in a heavy
DIL package.


And, could use the standard arm wiring to power/connect the output.

Standard wiring? You'd need to get power up there.

Standard wiring, not standard use of that wiring. There's 4 wires in
a headshell. Plenty to get power in and USB out.

Dave, you don't have to rush SO fast to knock an idea flying :-)

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:15:39 +0000, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:47:03 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

The preamp and converter would be normally built into the turntable
itself, but how about if some enterprising manufacturer built a
cartridge with a direct digital output? Firewire, USB or S/PDIF? Built
in RIAA equilisation?

But why add the weight of the electronics where you don't want it?

It might be a single-chip solution. No need to mount it in a heavy
DIL package.


And, could use the standard arm wiring to power/connect the output.

Standard wiring? You'd need to get power up there.

Standard wiring, not standard use of that wiring. There's 4 wires in
a headshell. Plenty to get power in and USB out.

Dave, you don't have to rush SO fast to knock an idea flying :-)

You're right. At least a two second pause would have been appropriate
for this one.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

In article , Adrian C
wrote:


The preamp and converter would be normally built into the turntable
itself, but how about if some enterprising manufacturer built a
cartridge with a direct digital output? Firewire, USB or S/PDIF? Built
in RIAA equilisation?

The result would probably be relatively expensive and also be excessively
heavy.

And, could use the standard arm wiring to power/connect the output.

What an idea for retrofitting old decks!

:-)

[If someone patents this.... er.... I mentioned it first, and may be
after you...!]

In the UK/EU, once someone mentions an idea in public it ceases to be
patentable as it has been 'published'. So in the unlikely event that no-one
had already thought of this, your comment has probably made a patent
worthless. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:47:03 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

The preamp and converter would be normally built into the turntable
itself, but how about if some enterprising manufacturer built a
cartridge with a direct digital output? Firewire, USB or S/PDIF?
Built in RIAA equilisation?

But why add the weight of the electronics where you don't want it?

It might be a single-chip solution. No need to mount it in a heavy DIL
package.

Would still add mass. You also need to worry about any digital portions of
such a device causing interference to the input signal generator - i.e. the
coil of the actual cartridge. Having no packaging isn't likely to help
here. Sounds like a pointless nightmare to me. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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housetrained wrote:

I saw one of those things described as "state of the art". I might just get
one to find out how absolutely AWFUL it sounds.

You mean how awful *VINYL* sounds surely ?

Graham

jasee wrote:

I saw one of those things described as "state of the art". I might
just get one to find out how absolutely AWFUL it sounds.

It contains the Numark Groovetool cartridge (or similar) 'A high value,
adjustable cartridge in a traditional headshell mount design -- great sound,
great tracking! 6 mil spherical diamond cartridge with 2.5g to 3.5g tracking
force.' which should do wonders for your record collection :-)

Must be a ceramic as the output of anything else wouldn't be high enough, I
think.

Hah.

Prolly a copy of the Stanton 500A.

Graham