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Old December 28th 06, 11:31 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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So I finally got a universal player and was looking forward to an
afternoon of Miles Davis in surround sound. All of the discs are
marked 'SACD' and one even has '360 Sound' on the label. It turns
out that none of them are dual-layer. They are all just CDs.
The buggers at Columbia Legacy (Sony Music) used the same artwork
for the CDs and SACDs. I guess I'll have to nip down to Tesco and
buy a copy of 'Dark Side of the Moon' for my multichannel fix. :-)

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Eiron.
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Old December 29th 06, 01:26 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Alan Rutlidge
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"Eiron" wrote in message
...
So I finally got a universal player and was looking forward to an
afternoon of Miles Davis in surround sound. All of the discs are
marked 'SACD' and one even has '360 Sound' on the label. It turns
out that none of them are dual-layer. They are all just CDs.
The buggers at Columbia Legacy (Sony Music) used the same artwork
for the CDs and SACDs. I guess I'll have to nip down to Tesco and
buy a copy of 'Dark Side of the Moon' for my multichannel fix. :-)

--
Eiron.


Is it possible you have fake discs or possibly not operating your player
correctly?
I own hundreds of SACDs, and have yet to find one that is marked as a SACD
and was indeed not one.
SACD / CD hybrid discs are easy to spot when you check out the playing side
of the media. It should have that bronze / gold colour, similar to a double
layered DVD.
Single layer SACDs (Stereo or MC and stereo) without the CD layer appear
silver in colour - just like a normal CD.

AFAIK there are two MC SACD Miles Davis titles. Both are single layer (SACD
only - no CD layer)
CS64935 Kind of Blue
CS86556 In a Silent Way

Cheers,
Alan





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Old December 29th 06, 06:59 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
harrogate3
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Default Not SACD


"Alan Rutlidge" wrote in message
...

"Eiron" wrote in message
...
So I finally got a universal player and was looking forward to an
afternoon of Miles Davis in surround sound. All of the discs are
marked 'SACD' and one even has '360 Sound' on the label. It turns
out that none of them are dual-layer. They are all just CDs.
The buggers at Columbia Legacy (Sony Music) used the same artwork
for the CDs and SACDs. I guess I'll have to nip down to Tesco and
buy a copy of 'Dark Side of the Moon' for my multichannel fix. :-)

--
Eiron.


Is it possible you have fake discs or possibly not operating your

player
correctly?
I own hundreds of SACDs, and have yet to find one that is marked as

a SACD
and was indeed not one.
SACD / CD hybrid discs are easy to spot when you check out the

playing side
of the media. It should have that bronze / gold colour, similar to

a double
layered DVD.
Single layer SACDs (Stereo or MC and stereo) without the CD layer

appear
silver in colour - just like a normal CD.

AFAIK there are two MC SACD Miles Davis titles. Both are single

layer (SACD
only - no CD layer)
CS64935 Kind of Blue
CS86556 In a Silent Way



It may also be a daft observation, but SACD's come in a jewel case
with rounded corners, not the usual sharp square things. If your case
corners are rounded then they are almost certainly SACD.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com


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Old December 29th 06, 07:53 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Alan Rutlidge
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"harrogate3" wrote in message
...

"Alan Rutlidge" wrote in message
...

"Eiron" wrote in message
...
So I finally got a universal player and was looking forward to an
afternoon of Miles Davis in surround sound. All of the discs are
marked 'SACD' and one even has '360 Sound' on the label. It turns
out that none of them are dual-layer. They are all just CDs.
The buggers at Columbia Legacy (Sony Music) used the same artwork
for the CDs and SACDs. I guess I'll have to nip down to Tesco and
buy a copy of 'Dark Side of the Moon' for my multichannel fix. :-)

--
Eiron.


Is it possible you have fake discs or possibly not operating your

player
correctly?
I own hundreds of SACDs, and have yet to find one that is marked as

a SACD
and was indeed not one.
SACD / CD hybrid discs are easy to spot when you check out the

playing side
of the media. It should have that bronze / gold colour, similar to

a double
layered DVD.
Single layer SACDs (Stereo or MC and stereo) without the CD layer

appear
silver in colour - just like a normal CD.

AFAIK there are two MC SACD Miles Davis titles. Both are single

layer (SACD
only - no CD layer)
CS64935 Kind of Blue
CS86556 In a Silent Way



It may also be a daft observation, but SACD's come in a jewel case
with rounded corners, not the usual sharp square things. If your case
corners are rounded then they are almost certainly SACD.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com



Not always, but mostly....

Example 1 - one of Powderfinger's CDs is packaged in the rounded corner
jewel box like most SACDs. Almost caught me out until I looked for the SACD
logo and it was nowhere to be found.

Example 2 - most of the Sony - Columbia titles are packaged in the same
squared cornered jewel cases as most CDs are.

Example 3 - Ray Charles - Genius Loves Company : packaged in a super jewel
case the same size as most DVD-A discs.

Example 4 - Digipaks : Don't you just hate them? Cheap and nasty cardboard
with a plastic insert. Yuk

Pity they didn't stick to just one packaging. Would make spotting them
amongst the CDs infinitely easier.

Cheers,
Alan



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Old December 29th 06, 08:58 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Eiron
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Default Not SACD

Alan Rutlidge wrote:

"Eiron" wrote in message
...

So I finally got a universal player and was looking forward to an
afternoon of Miles Davis in surround sound. All of the discs are
marked 'SACD' and one even has '360 Sound' on the label. It turns
out that none of them are dual-layer. They are all just CDs.
The buggers at Columbia Legacy (Sony Music) used the same artwork
for the CDs and SACDs. I guess I'll have to nip down to Tesco and
buy a copy of 'Dark Side of the Moon' for my multichannel fix. :-)

--
Eiron.



Is it possible you have fake discs or possibly not operating your player
correctly?
I own hundreds of SACDs, and have yet to find one that is marked as a SACD
and was indeed not one.
SACD / CD hybrid discs are easy to spot when you check out the playing side
of the media. It should have that bronze / gold colour, similar to a double
layered DVD.
Single layer SACDs (Stereo or MC and stereo) without the CD layer appear
silver in colour - just like a normal CD.

AFAIK there are two MC SACD Miles Davis titles. Both are single layer (SACD
only - no CD layer)
CS64935 Kind of Blue
CS86556 In a Silent Way


They are not fakes. Kind of Blue is CK64935, the CD version, not CS64935.
I bought and enjoyed it as a CD but as the label says SACD and 360 Sound
I thought it must be dual layer. I know better now.

--
Eiron.
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Old December 29th 06, 05:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Adam Sampson
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Default Not SACD

Eiron writes:

So I finally got a universal player and was looking forward to an
afternoon of Miles Davis in surround sound. All of the discs are
marked 'SACD' and one even has '360 Sound' on the label.


"360 Sound" is just a Columbia marketing term; it's been on their LPs
since the early 60s. It doesn't imply that it's a surround-sound
recording. The Miles Davis CDs I've got have "360 Sound" but not
"SACD" on the label, so it does sound like they just used the wrong
artwork on the ones you've got...

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