I need help,

I have a Kenwood UD-505 stereo system and I would like to transfer
music from LPs and Cassettes to the computer Hard Disk or CDs.

The problem is that the Kenwood system only has wiring output
connections for the speakers. It has no RCA outputs.

Could somebody give me some advice on how I can get the signals from
the stereo system to the computer?

hoping for some help, regards, salterre.

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salterre wrote:
I need help,

I have a Kenwood UD-505 stereo system and I would like to transfer
music from LPs and Cassettes to the computer Hard Disk or CDs.

The problem is that the Kenwood system only has wiring output
connections for the speakers. It has no RCA outputs.

Could somebody give me some advice on how I can get the signals from
the stereo system to the computer?

hoping for some help, regards, salterre.

You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those into the sound
card. Not ideal, but it would work. If you're not up to making such things
a decent car audio place will sell them. Designed to feed an external amp
off the speaker outputs of the head unit.

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:08:13 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:



You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those into the sound
card.
Why do people insist on giving advice for tricks they've never personally
tried? Your idea won't work. Unless getting the sound of a three
year old doing razzberies is what you're looking for. Even a microphone
suspended near the speaker would be an improvement over your idea.


Not ideal, but it would work. If you're not up to making such things
a decent car audio place will sell them. Designed to feed an external amp
off the speaker outputs of the head unit.

No ****. This is the only solution if you need to get from a speaker
level signal to a line level input. You must attenuate the signal
somehow.

AZ Nomad wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:08:13 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those into the sound
card.

Why do people insist on giving advice for tricks they've never personally
tried? Your idea won't work. Unless getting the sound of a three
year old doing razzberies is what you're looking for. Even a microphone
suspended near the speaker would be an improvement over your idea.

Do you know what 'attenuate' means?

The best method is to go to Amazon and buy CDs of your favourite LPs. :-)

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:22:36 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:08:13 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:



You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those into the sound
card.
Why do people insist on giving advice for tricks they've never personally
tried? Your idea won't work. Unless getting the sound of a three
year old doing razzberies is what you're looking for. Even a microphone
suspended near the speaker would be an improvement over your idea.


Why do you say this? There is no reason why the speaker output should
be particularly bad. At moderate level it should have distortion below
about 0.1%, which is inaudible for 99% of music. And of course the
idea that inserting a speaker and mic into the equation might actually
improve thing is quite laughable.


Not ideal, but it would work. If you're not up to making such things
a decent car audio place will sell them. Designed to feed an external amp
off the speaker outputs of the head unit.

No ****. This is the only solution if you need to get from a speaker
level signal to a line level input. You must attenuate the signal
somehow.

That would be why Dave said "you could attenuate the speaker outputs",
perhaps? Of course, your use of the word "somehow" is just a touch
revealing.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:35:21 GMT, Don Pearce wrote:


On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:22:36 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:08:13 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:



You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those into the sound
card.
Why do people insist on giving advice for tricks they've never personally
tried? Your idea won't work. Unless getting the sound of a three
year old doing razzberies is what you're looking for. Even a microphone
suspended near the speaker would be an improvement over your idea.


Why do you say this? There is no reason why the speaker output should
be particularly bad. At moderate level it should have distortion below
about 0.1%, which is inaudible for 99% of music. And of course the
Distortion isn't the problem. The problem is noise.



idea that inserting a speaker and mic into the equation might actually
improve thing is quite laughable.

It would be an improvement over directly connecting a speaker output to a line
level input.

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:48:39 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:35:21 GMT, Don Pearce wrote:


On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:22:36 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:08:13 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:



You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those into the sound
card.
Why do people insist on giving advice for tricks they've never personally
tried? Your idea won't work. Unless getting the sound of a three
year old doing razzberies is what you're looking for. Even a microphone
suspended near the speaker would be an improvement over your idea.


Why do you say this? There is no reason why the speaker output should
be particularly bad. At moderate level it should have distortion below
about 0.1%, which is inaudible for 99% of music. And of course the
Distortion isn't the problem. The problem is noise.


The noise gets attenuated along with the signal - there is no reason
for this connection to be any noisier than a line out connection.



idea that inserting a speaker and mic into the equation might actually
improve thing is quite laughable.

It would be an improvement over directly connecting a speaker output to a line
level input.

Dave didn't suggest that - he specifically mentioned an attenuator.

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

In article ,
AZ Nomad wrote:
Why do you say this? There is no reason why the speaker output should
be particularly bad. At moderate level it should have distortion below
about 0.1%, which is inaudible for 99% of music. And of course the

Distortion isn't the problem. The problem is noise.

Go on then. Make an even bigger fool of yourself. Just how much extra
noise does a power amp add to the input signal if you attenuate that
output back to line level? And discuss how much this will be noticeable
off an LP or cassette...


idea that inserting a speaker and mic into the equation might actually
improve thing is quite laughable.

It would be an improvement over directly connecting a speaker output to
a line level input.

You seem to be the only one suggesting this.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:35:21 GMT, Don Pearce
wrote:


On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:22:36 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:08:13 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:



You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those
into the sound card.
Why do people insist on giving advice for tricks
they've never personally
tried? Your idea won't work. Unless getting the sound
of a three
year old doing razzberies is what you're looking for.
Even a microphone
suspended near the speaker would be an improvement over
your idea.


Why do you say this? There is no reason why the speaker
output should be particularly bad. At moderate level it
should have distortion below about 0.1%, which is
inaudible for 99% of music. And of course the
Distortion isn't the problem. The problem is noise.



idea that inserting a speaker and mic into the equation
might actually improve thing is quite laughable.

It would be an improvement over directly connecting a
speaker output to a line level input.

Not in this universe.

In article ,
AZ Nomad wrote:
You could attenuate the speaker outputs and feed those into the sound
card.

Why do people insist on giving advice for tricks they've never personally
tried?

Really?

Your idea won't work.

Oh yes it will.

Unless getting the sound of a three
year old doing razzberies is what you're looking for.

And now you're simply showing - apart from not knowing what you're talking
about - you've never tried it yourself.

Even a microphone
suspended near the speaker would be an improvement over your idea.

And you obviously know even less about microphones.

Not ideal, but it would work. If you're not up to making such things a
decent car audio place will sell them. Designed to feed an external amp
off the speaker outputs of the head unit.

No ****. This is the only solution if you need to get from a speaker
level signal to a line level input. You must attenuate the signal
somehow.

Which is what I said, pratt.

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