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[email protected] April 21st 07 05:55 PM

Simple systems with a HDD
 
Does anyone know of any alternatives to the Bose LIFESTYLE 48/38
system, or the Denon CHR-103F based system? Obviously I'm not
suggesting buying the former, but any comments on the latter? I can't
find much about it on the net.


Steve Swift April 22nd 07 07:29 AM

Simple systems with a HDD
 
wrote:
Does anyone know of any alternatives to the Bose LIFESTYLE 48/38
system, or the Denon CHR-103F based system?


Presuming that you have a PC, you can get systems that will pipe music
stored in your PC to your Hi-Fi system. Some even come with a full
remote control giving access to all the details held in your PC.

I researched this a few weeks ago before upgrading my SONY 200 CD
changer to the 400 CD version - considerably cheaper than the PC/Hi-Fi
bridges, and almost certainly better quality (but inaudible to my ageing
ears).

Let me know if you want me to dig up the details.

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Dave Plowman (News) April 22nd 07 05:21 PM

Simple systems with a HDD
 
In article . com,
wrote:
Does anyone know of any alternatives to the Bose LIFESTYLE 48/38
system, or the Denon CHR-103F based system? Obviously I'm not
suggesting buying the former, but any comments on the latter? I can't
find much about it on the net.


There seems to be a glut of Acoustic Solutions CD 'Jukeboxes' on Ebay at
the minute - it's a CD Player with an internal HD that you can rip CDs to.
Don't think it can be used to record anything else, though. They seem to
go for well under 100 quid new.

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Keith G April 22nd 07 08:38 PM

Simple systems with a HDD
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:
Does anyone know of any alternatives to the Bose LIFESTYLE 48/38
system, or the Denon CHR-103F based system? Obviously I'm not
suggesting buying the former, but any comments on the latter? I can't
find much about it on the net.


There seems to be a glut of Acoustic Solutions CD 'Jukeboxes' on Ebay at
the minute - it's a CD Player with an internal HD that you can rip CDs to.
Don't think it can be used to record anything else, though. They seem to
go for well under 100 quid new.




Most of those have only a 40 Gig HDD - there is an 80 Gig version available:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...0454&rd=1&rd=1





Dave Plowman (News) April 22nd 07 11:12 PM

Simple systems with a HDD
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
There seems to be a glut of Acoustic Solutions CD 'Jukeboxes' on Ebay
at the minute - it's a CD Player with an internal HD that you can rip
CDs to. Don't think it can be used to record anything else, though.
They seem to go for well under 100 quid new.




Most of those have only a 40 Gig HDD - there is an 80 Gig version
available:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...0454&rd=1&rd=1

Yup - I bought an 80 gig one for 80 quid recently. It's pretty good for
that price. Not sure it would be at the RRP, though. Since it uses a
computer CD drive it's a bit noisier than an audio CD. But if you want a
fairly basic stand alone jukebox system it's ok. But it won't play MP3
CDs. Nor does it say anywhere just how many CDs it will store.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dr Hfuhruhurr April 23rd 07 11:22 AM

Simple systems with a HDD
 
On 23 Apr, 00:12, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Keith G wrote:

There seems to be a glut of Acoustic Solutions CD 'Jukeboxes' on Ebay
at the minute - it's a CD Player with an internal HD that you can rip
CDs to. Don't think it can be used to record anything else, though.
They seem to go for well under 100 quid new.

Most of those have only a 40 Gig HDD - there is an 80 Gig version
available:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sspagename=STR....

Yup - I bought an 80 gig one for 80 quid recently. It's pretty good for
that price. Not sure it would be at the RRP, though. Since it uses a
computer CD drive it's a bit noisier than an audio CD. But if you want a
fairly basic stand alone jukebox system it's ok. But it won't play MP3
CDs. Nor does it say anywhere just how many CDs it will store.


Mmmm 80gb * 1024 = 81,920Mb
If you take an 'average' CD of 600 Mb then that's just over 136 CDs
for WAV (which I'm presuming it is) files.
For £80 i'd be tempted to rip the lid of and try and cram something
HUGE in there.

Doc


Keith G April 23rd 07 11:41 AM

Simple systems with a HDD
 

"Dr Hfuhruhurr" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 23 Apr, 00:12, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Keith G wrote:

There seems to be a glut of Acoustic Solutions CD 'Jukeboxes' on Ebay
at the minute - it's a CD Player with an internal HD that you can rip
CDs to. Don't think it can be used to record anything else, though.
They seem to go for well under 100 quid new.

Most of those have only a 40 Gig HDD - there is an 80 Gig version
available:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sspagename=STR...

Yup - I bought an 80 gig one for 80 quid recently. It's pretty good for
that price. Not sure it would be at the RRP, though. Since it uses a
computer CD drive it's a bit noisier than an audio CD. But if you want a
fairly basic stand alone jukebox system it's ok. But it won't play MP3
CDs. Nor does it say anywhere just how many CDs it will store.


Mmmm 80gb * 1024 = 81,920Mb
If you take an 'average' CD of 600 Mb then that's just over 136 CDs
for WAV (which I'm presuming it is) files.



There are three levels of compression (128/192/320 KB) available, I gather -
so there would be the opportunity to store a lot more albums than that...??


For £80 i'd be tempted to rip the lid of and try and cram something
HUGE in there.



Yes, if it would recognise a 500 Gig disk and *could handle* that many files
it would be an awsome resource for not a lot of money, but the matching
Acoustic Solutions CD player (which is perfectly OK sonically) can get
confused with large numbers of MP3s on a CDRW, I believe. I recall that the
one I have here will start to miss off a few seconds of each of the tracks,
if it is subjected to a lot of button-pressing and skipping about on the
remote...??





Dave Plowman (News) April 23rd 07 11:50 AM

Simple systems with a HDD
 
In article .com,
Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
Yup - I bought an 80 gig one for 80 quid recently. It's pretty good
for that price. Not sure it would be at the RRP, though. Since it uses
a computer CD drive it's a bit noisier than an audio CD. But if you
want a fairly basic stand alone jukebox system it's ok. But it won't
play MP3 CDs. Nor does it say anywhere just how many CDs it will store.


Mmmm 80gb * 1024 = 81,920Mb If you take an 'average' CD of 600 Mb then
that's just over 136 CDs for WAV (which I'm presuming it is) files. For
£80 i'd be tempted to rip the lid of and try and cram something HUGE in
there.


It uses some form of data reduction but is a bit coy about saying which
one. On 'best' it sounds ok for my uses, though.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) April 23rd 07 11:58 AM

Simple systems with a HDD
 
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Yup - I bought an 80 gig one for 80 quid recently. It's pretty good
for that price. Not sure it would be at the RRP, though. Since it
uses a computer CD drive it's a bit noisier than an audio CD. But if
you want a fairly basic stand alone jukebox system it's ok. But it
won't play MP3 CDs. Nor does it say anywhere just how many CDs it
will store.


Mmmm 80gb * 1024 = 81,920Mb If you take an 'average' CD of 600 Mb
then that's just over 136 CDs for WAV (which I'm presuming it is)
files.




There are three levels of compression (128/192/320 KB) available, I
gather - so there would be the opportunity to store a lot more albums
than that...??


It would seem so. Trying my most difficult one - solo piano - I just
settled on the maximum. I won't need *that* many in it anyway - the filing
system isn't of the best. Or probably just the display. To find things
fast you'd need a bigger screen.


For £80 i'd be tempted to rip the lid of and try and cram something
HUGE in there.




Yes, if it would recognise a 500 Gig disk and *could handle* that many
files it would be an awsome resource for not a lot of money, but the
matching Acoustic Solutions CD player (which is perfectly OK
sonically) can get confused with large numbers of MP3s on a CDRW, I
believe. I recall that the one I have here will start to miss off a
few seconds of each of the tracks, if it is subjected to a lot of
button-pressing and skipping about on the remote...??


Their gear seems to be a mixture of bought in basics and home grown
interfaces. So if you can get the information on the bought in stuff it
might be possible. I've not looked inside it yet. It will re-format a
drive, though.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Keith G April 23rd 07 12:35 PM

Simple systems with a HDD
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Keith G wrote:
Yup - I bought an 80 gig one for 80 quid recently. It's pretty good
for that price. Not sure it would be at the RRP, though. Since it
uses a computer CD drive it's a bit noisier than an audio CD. But if
you want a fairly basic stand alone jukebox system it's ok. But it
won't play MP3 CDs. Nor does it say anywhere just how many CDs it
will store.


Mmmm 80gb * 1024 = 81,920Mb If you take an 'average' CD of 600 Mb
then that's just over 136 CDs for WAV (which I'm presuming it is)
files.




There are three levels of compression (128/192/320 KB) available, I
gather - so there would be the opportunity to store a lot more albums
than that...??


It would seem so. Trying my most difficult one - solo piano - I just
settled on the maximum. I won't need *that* many in it anyway - the filing
system isn't of the best. Or probably just the display. To find things
fast you'd need a bigger screen.


For £80 i'd be tempted to rip the lid of and try and cram something
HUGE in there.




Yes, if it would recognise a 500 Gig disk and *could handle* that many
files it would be an awsome resource for not a lot of money, but the
matching Acoustic Solutions CD player (which is perfectly OK
sonically) can get confused with large numbers of MP3s on a CDRW, I
believe. I recall that the one I have here will start to miss off a
few seconds of each of the tracks, if it is subjected to a lot of
button-pressing and skipping about on the remote...??


Their gear seems to be a mixture of bought in basics and home grown
interfaces. So if you can get the information on the bought in stuff it
might be possible. I've not looked inside it yet. It will re-format a
drive, though.




Having bought an AS '3 piece suite' (from Argos) out of curiosity:

DAB - highly recommendable, has a headphone socket with volume control which
means you can use it *standalone* with 'phones (playing as I type)...

Amplifier - fairly weedy power, but useful with a line-level output which
means it can serve as a handy switcher to a single input amp (valve?) or it
can be cut into the chain before the main amp and used as an headphone amp
(now sold to someone who is doing just that)!

CD/MP3 player - slightly less recommendable IMO, but fine sonically - can
get confused with too much skipping about though, as I said earlier...

.....I would say the brand is a curious one with some interesting facilities
not often found on much more expensive kit (output level matching on the
jukebox being a good example) but cheap, sold in department stores and
pitched generally at kids? (Karaoke, Home Cinema and DJ'ing &c.?)

Anyway, some interesting comments on the jukebox he

http://www.digitalhomemag.com/review...bsectionid=938





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