Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music

On May 13, 5:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music

It's waning crescent, so McCoy will be howling at its loudest. Nothing
of substance but lots of self-aggrandizing, self-serving lies.

Time to get its meds ajdusted... once again.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Peter Wieck a scris:
On May 13, 5:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music

It's waning crescent, so McCoy will be howling at its loudest. Nothing
of substance but lots of self-aggrandizing, self-serving lies.

Time to get its meds ajdusted... once again.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

I thought you kill filed him.
uyou keep telling everyone else to do that.

On May 13, 6:58 pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
Peter Wieck a scris:





On May 13, 5:33 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music

It's waning crescent, so McCoy will be howling at its loudest. Nothing
of substance but lots of self-aggrandizing, self-serving lies.

Time to get its meds ajdusted... once again.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

I thought you kill filed him.
uyou keep telling everyone else to do that.- Hide quoted text -

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McCoy bears watching.... much as Kudzu, deer ticks or toadstools.
Unlike the Morein coterie, it pretends to have something to say.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

in article , Andre Jute
at wrote on 5/13/07 6:33 PM:

Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music



Jute,

More bad fiction from you.

What media doesn't require some bit of tinkering? FM transmission has
pre-emphasis; tape has NAB equalization. Even your beloved CDs have a layer
for Reed-Solomon error correction, sampling rates, and D/A conversion.

Better stick to bike rides and pasta.

Jon

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message


What media doesn't require some bit of tinkering?

Digital media.

FM transmission has pre-emphasis;

Ignoring the complexities of stereo, which are significant.

tape has NAB equalization.

And bias.

Even your beloved CDs have a layer for Reed-Solomon error correction,

Irrelevant because it has nothing but positive effects on signal quality.

sampling rates,

Which have been rasied to insane levels of ovekill

and D/A conversion.

Which is one of the most perfected processed in audio.

Better stick to bike rides and pasta.

Better stick to something that you understand, Jon. That leaves audio out of
your diet.

Andre Jute wrote:

Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music

I doubt you really know what you are missing out upon.

But all the really keen musically eclectic ppl i know who have vast cd
collections
indicating a misspent middle age also still enjoy vinyl.
Most find that despite the vast sums they have spent on
cd players and transports, da converters, isolation platforms and
other widgets and gadgets, the humble black disk continues to delight,
and
give a greater sense of connection to the artist than any CD manages to
do.

I have been present at a number of AB comparisons where a CD version
and vinyl version of the same material from the same grand old master
tape
was being played, and we could switch from one to the other,
and vinyl seemed to have more to offer the audiophile subjectively.

Mind you, the whole analog recording process onto tape et all is a huge
bodge to.

So is FM stereo mulptiplexing.

Never mind the bodges, the sound does not seem to suffer, when they do
it right, IMHO.

Patrick Turner.

Patrick Turner wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Seeing all the posts about RIAA filters, I can only say I hope none of
the participants passed on the gene of obsessive shortsightedness that
draws audiophiles into the wastelands of RIAA. Vinyl discs are bad
enough when good clean CD's are available, but RIAA is a bodge to
correct another bodge. Two bodges don't make it right.

Andre Jute
uses only CD and so has time for more music

I doubt you really know what you are missing out upon.

But all the really keen musically eclectic ppl i know who have vast cd
collections
indicating a misspent middle age also still enjoy vinyl.
Most find that despite the vast sums they have spent on
cd players and transports, da converters, isolation platforms and
other widgets and gadgets, the humble black disk continues to delight,
and
give a greater sense of connection to the artist than any CD manages to
do.

I have been present at a number of AB comparisons where a CD version
and vinyl version of the same material from the same grand old master
tape
was being played, and we could switch from one to the other,
and vinyl seemed to have more to offer the audiophile subjectively.

Mind you, the whole analog recording process onto tape et all is a huge
bodge to.

So is FM stereo mulptiplexing.

Never mind the bodges, the sound does not seem to suffer, when they do
it right, IMHO.

Patrick Turner.

I used to have c8000 vinyl discs, including some old shellac. I sold
the important subcollections and gave the rest away. Vinyl is just too
time-consuming. So much music to listen to, so little time. CDs are a
boon.

I think there is a certain masochism afield among audiophiles. Like
Morgan owners, or MG owners, they think that hardship on one's
pleasures is a symptom of manliness. I don't. I always preferred
Porsche. cars that worked and offered a modicum of comfort, and big-
engined fast tourers rather than harsh, loud sports cars. Same in my
sound systems. I define what I want the sound to be and to do, and
then put it together like that. That is why I think horns and panels
are important, and ultra-simple amplifiers -- and CDs, so that
chaniging the music is quick and easy.

There is nothing wrong with CD sound quality; it is better than good
enough. I decided to go over solely to CD on the day Nimbus, who
transfer ancient discs to CD, sent me a box of CDs including one of
Ponselle that was better than anything you could buy on any other
medium, no matter how much money you spent.

Andre Jute
Our legislators managed to criminalize fox-hunting and smoking; when
they will get off their collective fat backside and criminalize
negative feedback? It is clearly consumed only by the enemies of
fidelity.

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ps.com...

Patrick Turner wrote:


But all the really keen musically eclectic ppl i know who have vast
cd
collections
indicating a misspent middle age also still enjoy vinyl.
Most find that despite the vast sums they have spent on
cd players and transports, da converters, isolation platforms and
other widgets and gadgets, the humble black disk continues to
delight,
and
give a greater sense of connection to the artist than any CD manages
to
do.


Crazy old ****er's not wrong there....



I think there is a certain masochism afield among audiophiles. Like
Morgan owners, or MG owners, they think that hardship on one's
pleasures is a symptom of manliness. I don't. I always preferred
Porsche. cars that worked and offered a modicum of comfort, and big-
engined fast tourers rather than harsh, loud sports cars. Same in my
sound systems.


You do? I saw some rather good pix you posted recently and a couple of
your bike with a *heartrate monitor* (?) did I not?

Here's a picture of my current bike:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/mybi...%20GSX1400.jpg


It allows me to do 0 to *very naughty* whenever I can or want without
even breaking a sweat!! ;-)


I define what I want the sound to be and to do, and
then put it together like that. That is why I think horns and panels
are important, and ultra-simple amplifiers


OK, we are back on the same track again.....

All is good, all is calm....

Keith G wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
I think there is a certain masochism afield among audiophiles. Like
Morgan owners, or MG owners, they think that hardship on one's
pleasures is a symptom of manliness. I don't. I always preferred
Porsche. cars that worked and offered a modicum of comfort, and big-
engined fast tourers rather than harsh, loud sports cars. Same in my
sound systems.


You do? I saw some rather good pix you posted recently and a couple of
your bike with a *heartrate monitor* (?) did I not?

I gave up the car altogether about 1990 and took up bicycling instead.
Now I'm 91.5kg, not too far over the days when I was a rugby player,
and officially certified to have "the heart of an ox". The heartrate
monitor is to keep my heart beating in the aerobic regions; when the
HRM beeps those who cycle with me know to slow down.

More about my bikes at
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...20CYCLING.html

Here's a picture of my current bike:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/mybi...%20GSX1400.jpg

Uh-huh. An overage hooligan -- says Andre who is still an honorary
president of the Johannesburg Hell's Angels. (It cost me a
containerload of beer but was cheap at the price because it also saved
me a beating. How the hell was I to know that the guy whose
policeman's hat I lifted was an Angel?)

It allows me to do 0 to *very naughty* whenever I can or want without
even breaking a sweat!! ;-)

Sweat is precisely the point. 91.5Kg...

I define what I want the sound to be and to do, and
then put it together like that. That is why I think horns and panels
are important, and ultra-simple amplifiers

OK, we are back on the same track again.....

All is good, all is calm....

I'm so fit that, when people bother me, my blood pressure goes *down*.

Andre Jute
"You don't need global feedback to build a good-sounding amplifier."
-- Henry Pasternack