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Old September 2nd 07, 10:52 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio
Bret Ludwig
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On Sep 1, 9:20 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
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No, as I've said recently elsewhere, I'm heartily sick
of seeing the words 'valvelike' and 'analogue sound'
being applied to SS kit and digital music by silly *hip*
magazine writers.


Agreed, no reason to slander good SS kit and good
digital recordings that way.


Except to *tempt* people to buy it....??


In fact there's virtually no discussion of SS versus tubed audio gear
anyplace but a few esoteric circles. The days of comparsions between tubed
and SS passed along several decades ago, with SS winning decisively.

Here's your challenge - find a significant (3% of the market) amount of
newly-produced media, or even media produced produced in the last 30 years,
that didn't pass through at least one SS device.


But more importantly, almost all pop releases today have audio that
has been through a tube somewhere.

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Old September 3rd 07, 12:28 AM posted to rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article . com,
Bret Ludwig wrote:
But more importantly, almost all pop releases today have audio that
has been through a tube somewhere.


Does that account for the appalling quality? Optimod type thingie set to
kill?

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Old September 3rd 07, 09:03 AM posted to rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article . com,
Bret Ludwig wrote:
But more importantly, almost all pop releases today have audio that
has been through a tube somewhere.


Does that account for the appalling quality? Optimod type thingie set to
kill?



I think he means in the recording chain. Tube mic preamps, and
tube compressors are to be found in almost every studio.



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Old September 3rd 07, 10:28 AM posted to rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Iain Churches wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article . com,
Bret Ludwig wrote:
But more importantly, almost all pop releases today have audio that
has been through a tube somewhere.


Does that account for the appalling quality? Optimod type thingie set
to kill?


I think he means in the recording chain. Tube mic preamps, and
tube compressors are to be found in almost every studio.


Right. So it's these that are responsible for the appalling quality of
much of today's pop output?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old September 3rd 07, 03:58 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article . com,
Bret Ludwig wrote:
But more importantly, almost all pop releases today have audio that
has been through a tube somewhere.

Does that account for the appalling quality? Optimod type thingie set
to kill?


I think he means in the recording chain. Tube mic preamps, and
tube compressors are to be found in almost every studio.


Right. So it's these that are responsible for the appalling quality of
much of today's pop output?

If only it was that simple, Dave:-)



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Old September 3rd 07, 12:23 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
i.fi...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article . com,
Bret Ludwig wrote:
But more importantly, almost all pop releases today have audio that
has been through a tube somewhere.


Does that account for the appalling quality? Optimod type thingie set to
kill?


I think he means in the recording chain. Tube mic preamps, and
tube compressors are to be found in almost every studio.


Nonsense.


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Old September 3rd 07, 12:23 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
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Here's your challenge - find a significant (3% of the market) amount of
newly-produced media, or even media produced produced in the last 30
years,
that didn't pass through at least one SS device.


But more importantly, almost all pop releases today have audio that
has been through a tube somewhere.


Nonsense.


 




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