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"Why are engineers the ugliest people in the world?" --- Time Magazine, was Why are "engineers" so poorly educated?



 
 
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Old November 1st 07, 12:57 AM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.pro
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Default "Why are engineers the ugliest people in the world?" --- Time Magazine, was Why are "engineers" so poorly educated?

The Boss is BACK!!!

Where have you been?

On Oct 31, 11:53 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
wrote:
Andre-


One, I'm sorry I got sucked into this thread, so this will be my last
entry into it.


Nah, anonymous "emmaco", you didn't get sucked in, you read the
headline, misunderstood it, and without discovering the facts dived
into the staked pit face-first, fully justifying the Time Magazine
rhetorical question, "Why are engineers the ugliest people in the
world?"

In my career I've managed a couple of hundred audio engineers ranging
from superb to poor. Each has had unique skills and abilities, and I
always thought it was my responsibility to provide an environment
appropriate to bring out their best. Collectively they have done very
specials things on billions of dollars of projects, including
specialty component designs. Every system reflects a bit of the
character of its designer.


So why don't you tell me your name so I can check your claims? This is
the third time of asking, and still no name, only anonymous bragging.

I once worked with a guy that couldn't get his EPSON printer to work
with his computer- he spent literally hundreds of hours perplexed over
the problem, including sending the printer back to Japan. Turned out
it was a bad cable he had hand made. What an idiot!


So you say. I might say he's a perfectionist. I once spent several
hundred hours rewriting 43 thick volumes of instructions for an early
computer that irritated me by their obscure prolixity into a single
slender volume; my obsessively fat-pared version was so much more
effective, the manufacturer gave it way with the computer.

His name was Dick Heyser,


It figures that a jumped-up, self-important bureaucrat like you would
call Dick Heyser "an idiot".

a name you should know if you have any
pretense of being in this business.


I'm not in your business except peripherally, thought it is true that
to those with terminal cases of inferiority complex, like you, I seem
to leave hairy footprints.

But in this instance I merely objected to people who call themselves
engineers lying about physics, and of course I object to blustering
fools like you trying to protect them by swingeing attacks on me.

Besides reprogramming America's
satellites in orbit, he spent this spare time inventing Time Delay
Spectrometry, the TEF analyzer, writing for Audio Magazine, and his
created own math transform. Smartest guy I've ever met.


Make up your mind, will you? Just now you called Heyser "an idiot".

There's a
reason the highest honor the Audio Engineering Society named their
award after him.


Indeed; those guys got that one right.

I can't help but think you've never experienced working on an
engineering and production team


You're wrong. But then your unfounded and unproven assumptions about
so much else are so invariably wrong, I've given up expecting sense
from you, anonymous "emmaco".

and likely never will with your
issues,


Do you know, anonymous "emmaco", in another of my professions they
will drum you out of the profession for snap diagnoses on zero
evidence such as you are so fond of.

clearly having nothing to do with providing the world with
better audio.


That's a matter of opinion. My netsitehttp://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
comes rather well recommended by people who aren't afraid to sign
their own names:
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review

Leading me to ask once more, who are you, anonymous "emmacocao"?

If you don't know of what you speak,


You have failed to prove a single element of which I spoke in
ignorance, whereas we see, again in this post, that you vomit out
opinions without foundation, without adducing argument, without
reason. Hey, sonny, an engineer might be no more than mechanical
appendix to science, a sort of jumped-up handyman, except not so
versatile as a real craftsman, but that doesn't relieve you of the
necessity of observing and respecting scientific method, in particular
the rules of proof. If you're looking for a digestible introduction to
scientific method, let me recommend to you the books of Karl Popper.

it may be best to shut your pie
hole.


What did you say your name was again, anonymous "emmaco"? Lysenko?
Will the jackboots come for me in the night for contradicting you? I
have news for you, sonny: sovereign governments, including the
apartheid government, eminently competent at violence, sent assassins
after me, and I returned one lot maimed for life as a message not to
**** with me, the next lot in boxes, and followed that up with a
threat to the government minister who sent them (I thought it amusing
to do it on Chrismas morning) that had him interrupting my mother's
holiday lunch to beg for the lives of his family. Squadrons of little
pompass engineers (holy ****, engineers, guys with protectors and
coloured pencils in their pockets!) don't cause the slightest shiver
up my backbone.

Or in your case, your keyboard.


My keyboard is definitely mightier than the sword, as I just
demonstrated.

Unless you plan on apologizing
to those you've insulted first.


Yes, I understand. If I grovel and crawl to the "engineers", among
whom I have now firmly placed you, I can spout any old crap, and you
guys will gather round and shout down anyone who contradicts me.

No thanks, I don't need that sort of pernicious "solidarity".

Unless you plan on apologizing
to those you've insulted first.


Furthermore, this is where we came in, where you lied that I offended
all engineers, whereas, as I have told you three times already, you
functional illiterate, I insulted only three particular "engineers",
whom I named and apostrophized to distinguish them from the many sound
engineers I know, and now you, of course, for obvious cause, because
you are thick and obdurate and offensive and stupid and illiterate.

I'm sorry I got sucked into this thread, so this will be my last
entry into it.


You don't have what it takes to enter rational discussion. You don't
even have the balls or the wit to conduct a minor flame war, anonymous
"emmacopout".

I'm sorry I got sucked into this thread, so this will be my last
entry into it.


Run, rabbit, run.

Flicked off my thumb like a piece of snot.

Unsigned out of contempt

PS Jesus Christ! Is this uncomprehending twit anonymous "emmaco" the
best champion you guys on rec.audio.pro can put forward for the
"honour" of engineers? What are you professionals at, then? Lying,
simpering and expecting unearned flattery?


 




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