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Eeyore January 9th 08 08:21 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 


David Looser wrote:

"Keith G" wrote

No - given that it seems you've got to spend about £3.5K to match a 300
quid Chinese valve amp, it's my pocket that exludes them from casual
investigation...


How on earth can an amplifier cost £3.5K? Unless the chassis is gold-plated,
or it's hand-built by a Swiss craftsman. Neither of which make any
difference to the performance.


And since when was a £300 Chinese amp any benchmark ?

Graham


Eeyore January 9th 08 08:23 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 


Keith G wrote:

I'm sure (but I don't *know*) that a 3 cwt/3 grand solid state amp
(running as hot as a forge) can probably offer the same 'sonics' as a valve
amp


No. The SS amp will never produce as much distortion as the valve amp. Unless
it's been designed to distort of course,

Graham


Eeyore January 9th 08 08:24 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 


Keith G wrote:

Anybody got first hand experience of a truly *serious* SS amp?


Yes. One I designed myself. Mosfet output stage with 24 power devices.

Graham


Keith G January 9th 08 10:01 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Keith G wrote:

I'm sure (but I don't *know*) that a 3 cwt/3 grand solid state amp
(running as hot as a forge) can probably offer the same 'sonics' as a
valve
amp


No. The SS amp will never produce as much distortion as the valve amp.
Unless
it's been designed to distort of course,




Anybody runs any amp into audible distortion deserves all he gets....




Keith G January 9th 08 10:03 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Keith G wrote:

Anybody got first hand experience of a truly *serious* SS amp?


Yes. One I designed myself. Mosfet output stage with 24 power devices.



Sounds pretty efficient - beats the **** out of one triode per channel then?




Keith G January 9th 08 10:06 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


David Looser wrote:

"Keith G" wrote

No - given that it seems you've got to spend about £3.5K to match a 300
quid Chinese valve amp, it's my pocket that exludes them from casual
investigation...


How on earth can an amplifier cost £3.5K? Unless the chassis is
gold-plated,
or it's hand-built by a Swiss craftsman. Neither of which make any
difference to the performance.


And since when was a £300 Chinese amp any benchmark ?




Since that's all I spent on one - which, asitappens, after a phone call
earlier this evening appears now to be sold to a bloke who came here to
see/hear my Dynaco Mk IIIs and went away with my Bez 300B SET to try on his,
er, ESL57s...!!!



Eeyore January 9th 08 10:22 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 


Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Keith G wrote:

I'm sure (but I don't *know*) that a 3 cwt/3 grand solid state amp
(running as hot as a forge) can probably offer the same 'sonics' as a
valve amp


No. The SS amp will never produce as much distortion as the valve amp.
Unless it's been designed to distort of course,


Anybody runs any amp into audible distortion deserves all he gets....


Define audible.

Graham



Eeyore January 9th 08 10:24 PM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 


Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Keith G wrote:

Anybody got first hand experience of a truly *serious* SS amp?


Yes. One I designed myself. Mosfet output stage with 24 power devices.


Sounds pretty efficient - beats the **** out of one triode per channel then?


It'll drive rock and roll rigs too. 600wpc into 4 ohms - around 900 wpc into 2.

As a monitor amplifier it was just lovely. Totally neutral.

Graham



Keith G January 10th 08 12:06 AM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Keith G wrote:

I'm sure (but I don't *know*) that a 3 cwt/3 grand solid state amp
(running as hot as a forge) can probably offer the same 'sonics' as a
valve amp

No. The SS amp will never produce as much distortion as the valve amp.
Unless it's been designed to distort of course,


Anybody runs any amp into audible distortion deserves all he gets....


Define audible.



Define 'define'...




Keith G January 10th 08 12:08 AM

Improving loudspeaker crossovers (SBL's)
 

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Keith G wrote:

Anybody got first hand experience of a truly *serious* SS amp?

Yes. One I designed myself. Mosfet output stage with 24 power devices.


Sounds pretty efficient - beats the **** out of one triode per channel
then?


It'll drive rock and roll rigs too. 600wpc into 4 ohms - around 900 wpc
into 2.

As a monitor amplifier it was just lovely. Totally neutral.




'Was'...??

You don't still have it?





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