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Old March 4th 08, 05:33 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
jakdedert
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Ron Hardin wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
You can of course get even more gain by adding another mixer. They do
seem to be really quiet so you can do that.

Eh?


Feed one mixer into the other. They have gain.

The noise level is low enough so that you can do that.


You 'can' do that, but unless there is something wrong with either the
mixer or the mic, there is not a reason in the world that one mixer
wouldn't be enough.

If there's not enough gain, then something's wrong and needs to be
fixed. (That 'something' might lie somewhere between the ears of the
operator.)

Period.

jak
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Old March 4th 08, 05:51 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
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Ron Hardin wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
You can of course get even more gain by adding another mixer. They
do seem to be really quiet so you can do that.


Eh?


Feed one mixer into the other. They have gain.


The noise level is low enough so that you can do that.


I don't think I've ever come across a mixer with phantom power - and using
a phantom powered mic - which has run out of gain.

Sounds like you've had a few nasties you've not sorted.

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Old March 5th 08, 03:28 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Ron Hardin wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
You can of course get even more gain by adding another mixer. They do
seem to be really quiet so you can do that.


Eh?


Feed one mixer into the other. They have gain.


The noise level is low enough so that you can do that.


What were you doing with it?

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Old March 4th 08, 04:55 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
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"Ron Hardin" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:


Do the microphones need phantom power? Is it turned on?
If in doubt, turn it on.


Watch out! Some phantom power mics blow up Behringer
mixers.


Exceedingly unlikely.

In particular the Rode NTG-2. If you turn on phantom
power the phantom power permanently is destroyed in the mixer.


Exceedingly unlikely.


I do believe that it is possible that someone, one time, plugged a NTG-2
into a Behringer mixer and coincidentally, the phantom power supply in that
mixer went out.


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Old February 28th 08, 08:17 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
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Adrian wrote:
Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk.


Strange sort of meeting ..... ;-)

The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.


Are you plugging the mic into a Mic Input, as opposed to a Line Input ? What
sort of mics ?
What sortof cables (hopefully proper XLR mics/cables).


At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.


You are "thinking of three mics" ? You didn't already have mics ? That's
possibly why there wasn't much level !

geoff


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Old February 28th 08, 09:36 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
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Adrian wrote:

Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.


You're plugging the mic into the jack socket aren't you ?

You must use the XLR. The jack is for LINE level signals like a CD
player output.

Graham

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Old February 28th 08, 10:55 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
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Adrian wrote:
Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.


Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.


Sounds like you're using the wrong sort of mic for the mixer - or the
mixer is setup wrongly for the mics. Most recent mics conform to the DIN
standard output level wise - provided they are connected to an appropriate
input. Most mixers worth calling that will be designed for low impedance
balanced mics.

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.


It should be possible to record the music side with just one mic - or pair
if stereo is wanted. But you'd have to experiment with mic placement. As
of course you would too if miking the vocal and piano separately. However,
in general, pianos sound better not miked too close.

As regards the mics themselves I'd go for phantom powered cardiod
condenser types. Personally I'd try for secondhand decent makes like AKG,
Neumann, Sennheiser, Calrec etc - although there are many not bad budget
new ones from China and Russia.

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Old February 28th 08, 11:48 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
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"Adrian"

Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.



** How far are the mics from the sound sources ??

Please give answer in inches, feet or miles.



....... Phil



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Old February 29th 08, 10:13 AM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:

"Adrian"

Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.



** How far are the mics from the sound sources ??


Please give answer in inches, feet or miles.


If he knew the accurate answer to that he'd hardly be asking advice about
recording an event...

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old February 29th 08, 01:01 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
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"Dave Plowman Nutcase ****ing LIAR "

(snip insane ****)


** You are one EVIL pile of sub-human garbage - Plowman,

But just another pommy ****.


One of millions.




....... Phil



 




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