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Old February 28th 08, 07:20 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Adrian
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Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.

Thanks

Adrian
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Old February 28th 08, 07:44 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Richard Crowley
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"Adrian" wrote ...
Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence
recording some meetings.


Are these meetings using some sort of sound reinforcement
(PA) system already? i.e. can you tap into an existing setup,
or do you have to roll your own?

The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk.


Is the piano player doing the singing?
Is the lecturer doing the singing (or in the same place)?
Or do you need separate mics for:
piano, singer, and lecturer?

The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.


There appears to be more than one mixer called
"1204" One of them has built-in USB. Exactly
which one are you asking about?

Thus far every microphone


What microphone(s) would that be?

I have plugged into the Behringer


Assuming you mean the 1204 and not the UCA202?

gives, insufficient signal.


How are you measuring "insufficient signal"?
In the recorded computer file?
At the computer recording application input?
At the mixer LED level meter?

With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.


What does "enough sound" mean?
Are you using mics that require phantom power?
Is the phantom power turned on?
Do you have the microphones plugged into the XLR inputs?
Where do you have the gain knobs set?
Does the mixer, etc. produce "enough sound" with
any other input?

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go
to four if that would be better.


What would the fourth mic be used for?
Typically, fewer mics are better. For any
number of reasons.


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Old February 28th 08, 08:04 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Adrian" wrote in message


Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence
recording some meetings. The meetings will consist of
singing accompanied by piano followed by a talk. The
recording device will be a Del Latitude fed from a
Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.


Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the
Behringer gives, insufficient signal. With the faders at
max I seem to barely have enough sound.


Have you adjusted the "trim" control for each microphone input to maximum?

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go
to four if that would be better.


Do the microphones need phantom power? Is it turned on? If in doubt, turn it
on.

Are the channel mute buttons off (not pushed in)?

How are you monitoring the output of the mixer?

Usually, I set up a mixer like this so that it is giving a reasonble output
to a pair of headphones, and then start recording.




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Old February 28th 08, 08:17 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Geoff
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Adrian wrote:
Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk.


Strange sort of meeting ..... ;-)

The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.


Are you plugging the mic into a Mic Input, as opposed to a Line Input ? What
sort of mics ?
What sortof cables (hopefully proper XLR mics/cables).


At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.


You are "thinking of three mics" ? You didn't already have mics ? That's
possibly why there wasn't much level !

geoff


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Old February 28th 08, 09:36 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Eeyore
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Adrian wrote:

Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.


You're plugging the mic into the jack socket aren't you ?

You must use the XLR. The jack is for LINE level signals like a CD
player output.

Graham

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Old February 28th 08, 10:55 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article
,
Adrian wrote:
Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.


Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.


Sounds like you're using the wrong sort of mic for the mixer - or the
mixer is setup wrongly for the mics. Most recent mics conform to the DIN
standard output level wise - provided they are connected to an appropriate
input. Most mixers worth calling that will be designed for low impedance
balanced mics.

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.


It should be possible to record the music side with just one mic - or pair
if stereo is wanted. But you'd have to experiment with mic placement. As
of course you would too if miking the vocal and piano separately. However,
in general, pianos sound better not miked too close.

As regards the mics themselves I'd go for phantom powered cardiod
condenser types. Personally I'd try for secondhand decent makes like AKG,
Neumann, Sennheiser, Calrec etc - although there are many not bad budget
new ones from China and Russia.

--
*OK, who stopped payment on my reality check?

Dave Plowman London SW
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Old February 28th 08, 11:48 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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"Adrian"

Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.



** How far are the mics from the sound sources ??

Please give answer in inches, feet or miles.



....... Phil



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Old February 29th 08, 10:13 AM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:

"Adrian"

Your advice would be appreciated: I plan to commence recording some
meetings. The meetings will consist of singing accompanied by piano
followed by a talk. The recording device will be a Del Latitude fed
from a Behringer 1204 thru a UCA202.

Thus far every microphone I have plugged into the Behringer gives,
insufficient signal. With the faders at max I seem to barely have
enough sound.

At this point I am thinking of three mic.'s I could go to four if
that would be better.



** How far are the mics from the sound sources ??


Please give answer in inches, feet or miles.


If he knew the accurate answer to that he'd hardly be asking advice about
recording an event...

--
*They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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Old February 29th 08, 01:01 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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"Dave Plowman Nutcase ****ing LIAR "

(snip insane ****)


** You are one EVIL pile of sub-human garbage - Plowman,

But just another pommy ****.


One of millions.




....... Phil



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Old February 29th 08, 02:49 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,rec.audio.tech,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
"Dave Plowman Nutcase ****ing LIAR "


(snip insane ****)



** You are one EVIL pile of sub-human garbage - Plowman,


But just another pommy ****.



One of millions.


Do you have this on a shortcut?

Would your mommy like you using such language?

Or your father?

Did you have a father?

--
*When blondes have more fun, do they know it?

Dave Plowman London SW
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