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Help? SME 3009 III arm set up



 
 
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Old June 3rd 08, 03:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
TT
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Default Help? SME 3009 III arm set up


"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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Does your lift mechanism slide up and down or is only able
to rotate at the top of the travel?


The lift mechanism should rotate all the way round on a screw-thread, so
you can adjust it for height by one thread per revolution. You will,
however, have to raise the arm as much as you can out of the base to do
this. If it's just touching, then one turn should do it. For safety, I
would remove the counterweight assembly and the arm tube before doing
this.


Actually, you will have to remove the counterweight assembly so that the
lift mechanism can go round as otherwise it will foul the weights. Still
remove the arm tube for safety though.

S.
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I removed the rubber strip from the lift mechanism and this is a complete
failure :-( When the arm drops the anti skate weight drags the arm around
so the stylus misses the edge of the LP :-(

I will try your suggestion tomorrow and see if that works. At least it will
give me practice in setting it all up again ;-)

Cheers TT


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Old June 3rd 08, 04:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Geoff Mackenzie
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: record. BTW cart is
: : a Shure V15V.
: :
: : **Nice cartridge. It deserves a better arm than the
SME.
: Having said that,
: : damping the V15V is not really necessary. The damping
: system is there to
: : counteract the crappy bearings of the SME, when used
with
: MC carts. These
: : comments do not apply to the SME V, which is a
stunning
: tone arm.
: :



Surprised to hear of poor engineering by SME; I thought that was what they
were good at.

I vaguely remember the fall of the SME 3009 as being non-compatible with MC
cartridges - mass compliance. or something like that?

The standard for years was the Shure/SME combination, often on a Garrard 401
or 402. Then along came the comics, and Linn/Grace/Supex.

I currently have - and have done for ten years or so - a sort of SME
four-and-half, i.e. a 4 (chosen simply because it looked better on my
Gyrodeck, and I wasn't sure if my ears could notice the difference from its
big brother) which was completely rebuilt by SME to 5 standard. If anyone's
interested, the cartridge is a Transfiguration - are they still around?

Still listening to music, not hi-fi.

Geoff MacK

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Old June 3rd 08, 08:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson[_2_]
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"TT" wrote in message
. au...

"Trevor Wilson" wrote
in message ...
:
:
: "TT" wrote in message
: . au...
: Yes I have downloaded the manual and yes I am competent
at setting up
: T/Ts.
:
: So just a brief question to clarify one point please.
:
: In the manual it alludes to the arm dampener as if it is
supposed to
: remain in contact with the arm while playing. Is this
so? Or does it
: only contact the arm when the lift is engaged?
:
: The problem is I can't seem to adjust the lift mechanism
low enough to
: clear the arm when the stylus is in contact with the
record. BTW cart is
: a Shure V15V.
:
: **Nice cartridge. It deserves a better arm than the SME.
Having said that,
: damping the V15V is not really necessary. The damping
system is there to
: counteract the crappy bearings of the SME, when used with
MC carts. These
: comments do not apply to the SME V, which is a stunning
tone arm.
:
Hi Trevor, I am only using the V15V to set up and test the
arm. I will be using a Garrot Bros FGS cart later.


**You may be disappointed. The V15-V is a VERY good cartridge. Arguably the
finest MM ever made. I'll take when you've finished with it.


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Old June 3rd 08, 11:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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Does your lift mechanism slide up and down or is only able
to rotate at the top of the travel?


The lift mechanism should rotate all the way round on a screw-thread, so
you can adjust it for height by one thread per revolution. You will,
however, have to raise the arm as much as you can out of the base to do
this. If it's just touching, then one turn should do it. For safety, I
would remove the counterweight assembly and the arm tube before doing
this.


Actually, you will have to remove the counterweight assembly so that the
lift mechanism can go round as otherwise it will foul the weights. Still
remove the arm tube for safety though.

S.
--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com


Yep, worked a treat :-) I had to remove the pinch bolt through the lift
mechanism clamp and lightly spread the gap with a fine screwdriver and then
it would rotate freely. About 1.5 turns was perfect to get suitable
clearance.

I re-installed the rubber dampener and the arm now drops straight as well.

Thanks for that Serge you were a great help.

Cheers TT


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Old June 3rd 08, 11:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
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Hi Trevor, I am only using the V15V to set up and test the

arm. I will be using a Garrot Bros FGS cart later.


**You may be disappointed. The V15-V is a VERY good cartridge. Arguably
the finest MM ever made. I'll take when you've finished with it.


I have had the Garrott for over a year and is my "weapon of choice". When I
first got it played a test LP and recorded both carts at 24bit 96kHz and
then compared the two sets of data in CEP. Very little between the two.

Sound wise was another matter. I even have Alan R. to back this up as well,
the Garrott produces far less surface noise than the Shure. I have talked
to Garrott (Philippe) about this and he says it is due to the diamond
profile. Shrug! All I know is it works.

The Shure is an excellent cart and it is good to keep as spare or back up
especially since I have a brand new genuine stylus for it as well so it
should last a while ;-)

And in cases like this I can compare the two arms with know similar carts on
two identical T/Ts. If I can talk Alan R. into brining his V15V over when
he comes next we can compare like for like.

Cheers TT

PS I have your cables and will be testing those very soon as well. Too much
to test, not enough time to listen to music ;-)


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Old June 4th 08, 07:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:



:
Hi Trevor, I am only using the V15V to set up and test the arm. I
will be using a Garrot Bros FGS cart later.


**You may be disappointed. The V15-V is a VERY good cartridge. Arguably
the finest MM ever made. I'll take when you've finished with it.


If I'm closer, I'd take it - just to save you the delivery costs. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Old June 4th 08, 02:50 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Serge Auckland[_2_]
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"TT" wrote in message
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
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Does your lift mechanism slide up and down or is only able
to rotate at the top of the travel?


The lift mechanism should rotate all the way round on a screw-thread, so
you can adjust it for height by one thread per revolution. You will,
however, have to raise the arm as much as you can out of the base to do
this. If it's just touching, then one turn should do it. For safety, I
would remove the counterweight assembly and the arm tube before doing
this.


Actually, you will have to remove the counterweight assembly so that the
lift mechanism can go round as otherwise it will foul the weights. Still
remove the arm tube for safety though.

S.
--
http://audiopages.googlepages.com


Yep, worked a treat :-) I had to remove the pinch bolt through the lift
mechanism clamp and lightly spread the gap with a fine screwdriver and
then it would rotate freely. About 1.5 turns was perfect to get suitable
clearance.

I re-installed the rubber dampener and the arm now drops straight as well.

Thanks for that Serge you were a great help.

Cheers TT

You're welcome, been there myself. Enjoy the arm.

By the way, original Shure styli are now rarer than hen's teeth as they
stopped making them some years ago. If you find you don't want the V15V ,
you'll not have any trouble selling it for a good price.

S.
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Old June 4th 08, 04:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Iain Churches[_2_]
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Default Help? SME 3009 III arm set up



"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:



:
Hi Trevor, I am only using the V15V to set up and test the arm. I
will be using a Garrot Bros FGS cart later.


**You may be disappointed. The V15-V is a VERY good cartridge. Arguably
the finest MM ever made. I'll take when you've finished with it.


If I'm closer, I'd take it - just to save you the delivery costs. :-)


I would be willing to collect it personally:-)
Iain


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Old June 4th 08, 04:15 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
UnsteadyKen
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Jim Lesurf said:

If I'm closer, I'd take it - just to save you the delivery costs. :-)

Generous to a fault as ever.

Jim if are you still looking for another V15 III body for your test
series then I have one I can donate if you email me an address to
send it to, also a Decca London (gold, i think) which you might like
to play with.
The MR stylus pictured in the latest article looks an odd beast in
comparison to the others does it not?
--
Ken
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Old June 4th 08, 08:38 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson[_2_]
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:



:
Hi Trevor, I am only using the V15V to set up and test the arm. I
will be using a Garrot Bros FGS cart later.


**You may be disappointed. The V15-V is a VERY good cartridge. Arguably
the finest MM ever made. I'll take when you've finished with it.


If I'm closer, I'd take it - just to save you the delivery costs. :-)


**LOL! It's a push Jim. Terry resides on the other side of Australia to me.
It's a bloody long way away. Not quite as far as the UK though.

[Aside] I recall my first international air flight flying due North (from
Sydney). I fell asleep for a few hours. When I awoke, I asked my girlfriend
where we were. "Don't bother answering" I said. " I can see the red soil.
We're still flying over Australia." It's a big place.


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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


 




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