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"Eeysore the ASD ****ed charlatan" "

Rather like those who see their favourite pop vocalist using an SM58 etc
and
assume it's the best mic ever made...

A mic I loathe with a vengeance.


** Hardy a rational attitude.

More like some demented, psychological aversion.

Asperger's syndrome sufferers have lots of them.



....... Phil

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Eeyore wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:

Combine that with humbucking pickups
And the sound will change.
When I changed my pickups it was from the old humbuckers to the new
ones, and the change of sound was one of the main reasons why I did it.
I get a much clearer punchier sound from the new ones.

You're missing the point. AS ever it seems. If the owner wanted a "clearer
punchier sound" he wouldn't bought what he has now would he ?

Graham


OK, you don't know how buying guitars works. Let me tell you.

You buy the guitar you like for a hundred reasons, and the pickups are
the least of them. You buy the shape, the feel, the design of neck, the
shape of fret, the cutaways, the controls, the type of wood - the list
goes on and on. Once you have bought the guitar you want you set about
making into the guitar you really want. Part of that is messing with
trivial things like pickups.

My reasoning with this guitar went as follows. I've always liked the
Gibson SG. But today's examples have two problems. They are way
overpriced, and the finish is just crap - sharp ends of frets sticking
beyond the neck etc. Epiphone make an authorized copy for 20% of the
price, and the materials and finish are just beautiful. But the pickups
are cheap and dull sounding. So what do you reckon is the right thing to
do? Buy the expensive one and have major structural work, or buy the
nice cheap one and change the pickups, which I am very comfortable doing
myself. And of course while I have all the covers off I do all the other
little jobs that turn it from a simply good guitar to a great one.

d

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

Eeyore wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don Pearce = Posturing ****** "

But if what you want is an EMI shield, you don't make an enormously
expensive steel box - any simple and cheap conductive mesh will do as
well.
** Take that up with Eeyore.
It was the recommendation of the EMC company who fitted it all. Blowed If I can
remember their name now, I recall they make 19" racking kit too.

According to them the thickness of the material is important and they use as
much as they consider is required.

when you are doing magnetic shielding, absolutely the thickness of the
metal is key, because you must have enough metal there that it will not
saturate. Is this studio by any chance built in the MRI suite of a
hospital? That is the only reason I can think of for this screening.

No. Approx here actually.
http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=...app=newmap.srf

Graham


Near Bob's Good Time Blues Bar? I know the area well. But right over a
tube line? I remember Pye studios at Marble Arch. We could record rock
bands any time of day or night but anything acoustic had to be done at
night after the Central Line had stopped running - either that or try
and time takes between rumbles.

d

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

In article , Phil Allison
scribeth thus

"tony sayer"


The ability to de-modulate strong RF signals is built into most items of
audio gear - the valves and transistors at the input do it. The RF
energy
enters the circuitry on the signals and sometimes the speaker cables.

Such connecting cables act as antennas and the RF signal goes straight in
on
the braided copper shields of 1/4 inch guitar and XLR leads.

Many classic guitar amps like Marshalls are very prone to this form of RF
injection.

Could you then explain the way this happens in detail if you wish and --
-especially- with valved equipment's?..


** So now you finally admit have no the slightest idea what makes audio gear
de-modulate RF signals ?

Yes I do but do you?. Once again can you explain the mechanism as to how
this happens in Semiconductor equipment and Valve equipment's?..

So naturally, you also believe it does not happen unless the gear is
somehow faulty.

No the gear -could- be faulty ..but more often than not is poorly
designed..

So you ARE a know nothing ****wit, fallaciously arguing from a position
of total ignorance.

Ah!, hit a raw never have we then Phil?.

--
Tony Sayer

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

In article , Eeyore rabbitsfriendsandrela
scribeth thus


tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:

Or did you mean that your friends make rooms that are screened against
magnetically induced fields?..

Is 2mm mild steel over say 10 m3 going to do that ?

So you really think that there are magnetic fields around external to a
top rate studio that are going to produce that field level?.

A NMRI scanner isn't that well screened;)..

It's Don who claims they're magnetic. Yet they don't fall off with distance
appreciably.

Graham


Theres more to the screening of an NMRI scanner .. its to do with
keeping signals -out- rather then in. Even the 1-2 odd Tesla field isn't
likely to cause a problem in the studio next door to the manky guitar
pickup coil company;)..
--
Tony Sayer

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

In article , Phil Allison
scribeth thus

"tony sayer"


** Dear Tony,

you are a know nothing ****wit, fallaciously arguing from a position of
total ignorance.

Go drop dead.


.... Phil




**Dear Phil!...........


*************Let me put that in something you'll understand...........


you are flummoxed but a total all knowing moony
feckwit..............



................NOW GO AND SHAG A SHEEP!....................



....................TONY s...................
--
Tony Sayer

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

In article , Eeyore rabbitsfriendsandrel
scribeth thus


Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:

Guitarists who are serious and understand the
issues modify their guitars to screen all the electrics.

No. Most who own old originals won't let an engineer anywhere near them lest
it 'modify' the sound.


It's no problem. Every top guitarist has a tech who works on his guitars
- they need constant fettling if they are to stay playing well, and
adding screening to the cavities is just one of the tasks that is standard.

The guitar 'tech' if one can call him that that comes to mind would have no
truck
with any such thing.

Graham


No of course not!, part and parcel of the guitar sound is clucks and
hum's and pops !..

can't have it too clean can we;?...
--
Tony Sayer

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
Eeyore wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:

Combine that with humbucking pickups
And the sound will change.
When I changed my pickups it was from the old humbuckers to the new
ones, and the change of sound was one of the main reasons why I did it.
I get a much clearer punchier sound from the new ones.

You're missing the point. AS ever it seems. If the owner wanted a "clearer
punchier sound" he wouldn't bought what he has now would he ?

Graham


OK, you don't know how buying guitars works. Let me tell you.

You buy the guitar you like for a hundred reasons, and the pickups are
the least of them. You buy the shape, the feel, the design of neck, the
shape of fret, the cutaways, the controls, the type of wood - the list
goes on and on. Once you have bought the guitar you want you set about
making into the guitar you really want. Part of that is messing with
trivial things like pickups.

My reasoning with this guitar went as follows. I've always liked the
Gibson SG. But today's examples have two problems. They are way
overpriced, and the finish is just crap - sharp ends of frets sticking
beyond the neck etc. Epiphone make an authorized copy for 20% of the
price, and the materials and finish are just beautiful. But the pickups
are cheap and dull sounding. So what do you reckon is the right thing to
do? Buy the expensive one and have major structural work, or buy the
nice cheap one and change the pickups, which I am very comfortable doing
myself. And of course while I have all the covers off I do all the other
little jobs that turn it from a simply good guitar to a great one.

d

Ah!, but thats all the fun of muso instruments, must have the oxygen
intense pickup coil wire and the "hammered under a full moon" forged
strings eh/,,,
--
Tony Sayer

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
Eeyore wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"Don Pearce = Posturing ****** "

But if what you want is an EMI shield, you don't make an enormously
expensive steel box - any simple and cheap conductive mesh will do as
well.
** Take that up with Eeyore.
It was the recommendation of the EMC company who fitted it all. Blowed If I
can
remember their name now, I recall they make 19" racking kit too.

According to them the thickness of the material is important and they use as
much as they consider is required.

when you are doing magnetic shielding, absolutely the thickness of the
metal is key, because you must have enough metal there that it will not
saturate. Is this studio by any chance built in the MRI suite of a
hospital? That is the only reason I can think of for this screening.

No. Approx here actually.
http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=...+road&s t=6&t
l=Latimer+Road,+London,+W_10&searchp=newsearch.sr f&mapp=newmap.srf

Graham


Near Bob's Good Time Blues Bar? I know the area well. But right over a
tube line? I remember Pye studios at Marble Arch. We could record rock
bands any time of day or night but anything acoustic had to be done at
night after the Central Line had stopped running - either that or try
and time takes between rumbles.

d

Yes even the BBC have a similar problem..

Now back to EMI/EMC matters .. we have locally a quite decent recording
studio which has on one side a Radio station and the other a garage and
metal shop using arc welding equipment.

Now the radio station uses 48 and 52 odd MHz transmitters for audio
links, transmitters operating in the 165-174 MHz band and handportables
for 450-470 MHz. Across the way is a Taxi office .. and know what?, they
never have a problem with interference!...

And BTW they never bothered with an "insultant" either to tell them use
god knows how much copper chicken wire to keep the phantom nasties
out!..

Just plain old simple good wiring and installation techniques:)...
--
Tony Sayer

Dirty Digital [sic.]
 

tony sayer wrote:
In article , Don Pearce
scribeth thus
Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:

Combine that with humbucking pickups
And the sound will change.
When I changed my pickups it was from the old humbuckers to the new
ones, and the change of sound was one of the main reasons why I did it.
I get a much clearer punchier sound from the new ones.
You're missing the point. AS ever it seems. If the owner wanted a "clearer
punchier sound" he wouldn't bought what he has now would he ?

Graham

OK, you don't know how buying guitars works. Let me tell you.

You buy the guitar you like for a hundred reasons, and the pickups are
the least of them. You buy the shape, the feel, the design of neck, the
shape of fret, the cutaways, the controls, the type of wood - the list
goes on and on. Once you have bought the guitar you want you set about
making into the guitar you really want. Part of that is messing with
trivial things like pickups.

My reasoning with this guitar went as follows. I've always liked the
Gibson SG. But today's examples have two problems. They are way
overpriced, and the finish is just crap - sharp ends of frets sticking
beyond the neck etc. Epiphone make an authorized copy for 20% of the
price, and the materials and finish are just beautiful. But the pickups
are cheap and dull sounding. So what do you reckon is the right thing to
do? Buy the expensive one and have major structural work, or buy the
nice cheap one and change the pickups, which I am very comfortable doing
myself. And of course while I have all the covers off I do all the other
little jobs that turn it from a simply good guitar to a great one.

d

Ah!, but thats all the fun of muso instruments, must have the oxygen
intense pickup coil wire and the "hammered under a full moon" forged
strings eh/,,,

Exactly.

d