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Eeyore July 11th 08 06:08 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


max graff wrote:

Dear all,

I have been using the adorable Chord Company interconnects and speaker
cables for a while. Has anyone reviewed TCI Cobra interconnects
against the Chameleons? If so I would like to know your experiences.


Why are you so stupid to think a piece of wire can 'have a sound' ?

Does you car stereo sound better when you fill the tank with Shell ?

Graham


Eeyore July 11th 08 06:10 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


Adrian C wrote:

max graff wrote:

Stop jumping you elephant. If you dun have an answer to my question
kindly sush up.


Try an audio forum. This lot here unfortunately have seen the light, and
won't be swayed from the facts.


Audio Voodoo can only be practiced in the DARK !

Graham


Eeyore July 11th 08 06:11 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


housetrained wrote:

Tried a blind listening test the other day. Connected left channel and left
speaker with my chords and the right channel and right speaker with my
cobras. Absolutely amazing - no centre AT ALL. Perfect left, perfect right,
BUT NO centre stage. Phenomenal. Anyone ideas?


You need balanced wiring.

An obvious example. ;~)

Graham


Eeyore July 11th 08 06:12 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


Don Pearce wrote:

housetrained wrote:
Tried a blind listening test the other day. Connected left channel and
left speaker with my chords and the right channel and right speaker with
my cobras. Absolutely amazing - no centre AT ALL. Perfect left, perfect
right, BUT NO centre stage. Phenomenal. Anyone ideas?


Yup. First it wasn't blind - you knew what was connected where,
therefore all that follows is void. Second, the only way you could get
that result is if you were playing different material through the two
channels. A lesser effect would occur if you managed to wire the two
speakers out of phase with each other, but you wouldn't get perfect left
and perfect right. You would certainly get no centre, but everything
else wafting vaguely around the speaker space.


Never mind how much his hearing altered in the intervening period.

I thought it was a joke though ?

Graham


Eeyore July 11th 08 06:13 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


Eiron wrote:

housetrained wrote:
Tried a blind listening test the other day. Connected left channel and
left speaker with my chords and the right channel and right speaker with
my cobras. Absolutely amazing - no centre AT ALL. Perfect left, perfect
right, BUT NO centre stage. Phenomenal. Anyone ideas?


Reversed polarity in one cable.


On an UNbalanced cable ?

Graham


Eeyore July 11th 08 06:15 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


Arny Krueger wrote:

"housetrained" wrote

Tried a blind listening test the other day. Connected
left channel and left speaker with my chords and the
right channel and right speaker with my cobras.


What was blind about this?

Absolutely amazing - no centre AT ALL. Perfect left,
perfect right, BUT NO centre stage. Phenomenal. Anyone
ideas?


Yeah, this often happens with speaker cables. You inadvertently hooked one
cable up with reversed polarity as compared to the other.


Now if they used XLRs or SPEAKONs there'd be no chance of that !

He didn't say there was no bass though.

Graham



Arny Krueger July 11th 08 06:51 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
"Eeyore" wrote in
message
Arny Krueger wrote:

"housetrained" wrote

Tried a blind listening test the other day. Connected
left channel and left speaker with my chords and the
right channel and right speaker with my cobras.


What was blind about this?

Absolutely amazing - no centre AT ALL. Perfect left,
perfect right, BUT NO centre stage. Phenomenal. Anyone
ideas?


Yeah, this often happens with speaker cables. You
inadvertently hooked one cable up with reversed polarity
as compared to the other.


Now if they used XLRs or SPEAKONs there'd be no chance
of that !


Right, but pro audio technology is verboten in the weird world of
audiophilia. Just because it was the technology that was used to make the
recordings in the first place is meaningless to your average audiophile.
Remember those idiots from aus.hi-fi who thought that balanced interfaces
would not be beneficial in home audio systems?

He didn't say there was no bass though.


A lot of audiophile speakers are so weak in the bass department that there
may be nothing to cancel out.




Eiron July 11th 08 07:08 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
Eeyore wrote:

Eiron wrote:

housetrained wrote:
Tried a blind listening test the other day. Connected left channel and
left speaker with my chords and the right channel and right speaker with
my cobras. Absolutely amazing - no centre AT ALL. Perfect left, perfect
right, BUT NO centre stage. Phenomenal. Anyone ideas?

Reversed polarity in one cable.


On an UNbalanced cable ?

Graham


You're an ass, Eeyore. He's referring to speaker cable.

--
Eiron.

Paul P July 12th 08 01:24 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 

"max graff" wrote in message
...
Dear all,

I have been using the adorable Chord Company interconnects and speaker
cables for a while. Has anyone reviewed TCI Cobra interconnects
against the Chameleons? If so I would like to know your experiences.

Cheers Max


I did lots of reviews when companies made wild and incredible claims about
audio cables and video cables. I found that 6mm twin and earth mains cable
give perfect results, exactly the same as the leads costing hundreds of
pounds.
Even 2.5mm mains cable was better than some of the audio leads on sale.
Quality would only be reduced if you used hundreds of feet of normal speaker
cable. Power handling is related to the size of the cable too.

Don't be conned, don't throw your money away.

HDMI cables are the next big con. A £2 one from your local shop is just as
good as a £50 one from a company making claims they can't prove.
Trading Standards should really move in but they are cowards.



David Looser July 12th 08 01:32 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
"Paul P" wrote in message
...

"max graff" wrote in message
...
Dear all,

I have been using the adorable Chord Company interconnects and speaker
cables for a while. Has anyone reviewed TCI Cobra interconnects
against the Chameleons? If so I would like to know your experiences.

Cheers Max


I did lots of reviews when companies made wild and incredible claims about
audio cables and video cables. I found that 6mm twin and earth mains
cable
give perfect results, exactly the same as the leads costing hundreds of
pounds.
Even 2.5mm mains cable was better than some of the audio leads on sale.
Quality would only be reduced if you used hundreds of feet of normal
speaker
cable. Power handling is related to the size of the cable too.


I'd be interested in any evidence that there is any audible difference in
normal domestic use between 6sqmm and 2.5sqmm for lengths up to 10m.

Don't be conned, don't throw your money away.

Agreed.

David.





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