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Adrian C July 12th 08 03:59 PM

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Paul P wrote:

I did lots of reviews when


You did nothing of the sort, Tiscali Idiot!!!!

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Adrian C

Dave Plowman (News) July 12th 08 06:01 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
In article ,
Paul P wrote:
I did lots of reviews when companies made wild and incredible claims
about audio cables and video cables. I found that 6mm twin and earth
mains cable give perfect results, exactly the same as the leads costing
hundreds of pounds. Even 2.5mm mains cable was better than some of the
audio leads on sale. Quality would only be reduced if you used hundreds
of feet of normal speaker cable. Power handling is related to the size
of the cable too.


Just what sort of runs are you talking about to need 6mm cable? Or amp
power? 2.5mm is more than adequate for most domestic runs.

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*Who are these kids and why are they calling me Mom?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Eeyore July 13th 08 06:14 AM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


Paul P wrote:

Trading Standards should really move in but they are cowards.


When I have a spare moment I have one example in particular.

Graham



Eeyore July 13th 08 06:15 AM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


David Looser wrote:

I'd be interested in any evidence that there is any audible difference in
normal domestic use between 6sqmm and 2.5sqmm for lengths up to 10m.


What does the resistance difference work out to ? Data should be readily
available.

Graham


Adrian C July 13th 08 12:31 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
Eeyore wrote:

Paul P wrote:

Trading Standards should really move in but they are cowards.


When I have a spare moment I have one example in particular.

Graham



"Paul P" for the uninitiated is another dress for the morphing troll
known as the Tiscali Idiot. Don't expect much brilliance from him - it's
mostly fake.... Reviewers don't write with the fervour of a madman...

But not as fake as the story exposed from googling "asa russ andrews"

It would be interesting if googling just the words "russ andrews" would
show up all the derisory scam busting sites first. If you run an audio
web site visited by google's robots, you know exactly what to do....

Consider it a public service :-)

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Adrian C

Dave Plowman (News) July 13th 08 12:31 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
In article ,
Eeyore wrote:


David Looser wrote:


I'd be interested in any evidence that there is any audible difference
in normal domestic use between 6sqmm and 2.5sqmm for lengths up to 10m.


What does the resistance difference work out to ? Data should be readily
available.


Here's a handy voltage drop calculator which should give you the data you
want - with a bit of maths.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technica...ltageDrop.html

Graham


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*He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless, dead.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Eeyore July 13th 08 05:00 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


Adrian C wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Paul P wrote:

Trading Standards should really move in but they are cowards.


When I have a spare moment I have one example in particular.


"Paul P" for the uninitiated is another dress for the morphing troll
known as the Tiscali Idiot. Don't expect much brilliance from him - it's
mostly fake.... Reviewers don't write with the fervour of a madman...

But not as fake as the story exposed from googling "asa russ andrews"


Uh ? The ASA DID demand Russ Andrews remove certain claims.

Let me tell you how the ASA repsonded on another mattter.

Oh and now let me shoot myself for not organising my email better ! I can't
find the damn reply !

False or unverifiable claims ARE illegal under British Law.

Graham





Eeyore July 13th 08 05:02 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Eeyore wrote:

David Looser wrote:


I'd be interested in any evidence that there is any audible difference
in normal domestic use between 6sqmm and 2.5sqmm for lengths up to 10m.


What does the resistance difference work out to ? Data should be readily
available.


Here's a handy voltage drop calculator which should give you the data you
want - with a bit of maths.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technica...ltageDrop.html


I was hoping you'd do it for me since it was you who expressed interest.

It's more than 'volt drops' btw since speakers do not have constant impedance.

You need to know the R, L and C of cable. It makes a complex filter.

Graham


Dave Plowman (News) July 13th 08 05:18 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
In article , Eeyore
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:


In article , Eeyore
wrote:

David Looser wrote:


I'd be interested in any evidence that there is any audible
difference in normal domestic use between 6sqmm and 2.5sqmm for
lengths up to 10m.


What does the resistance difference work out to ? Data should be
readily available.


Here's a handy voltage drop calculator which should give you the data
you want - with a bit of maths.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technica...ltageDrop.html


I was hoping you'd do it for me since it was you who expressed interest.


No I didn't. ;-)

It's more than 'volt drops' btw since speakers do not have constant
impedance.


You need to know the R, L and C of cable. It makes a complex filter.


With the output impedance of a decent amp being 2 10ths of FA, the
capacitance of any practical cable doesn't matter. Nor should the
inductance with a properly designed amp. The only thing left - under
normal circumstances, ie likely domestic speaker runs - is the resistance.

Graham


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*Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

David Looser July 13th 08 05:29 PM

TCI Cobra interconnects against Chord Chameleon
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article , Eeyore
wrote:


I was hoping you'd do it for me since it was you who expressed interest.


No I didn't. ;-)


It was me, I'll have a go.

It's more than 'volt drops' btw since speakers do not have constant
impedance.


So the "volt drop" will vary with frequency, which will cause an additional
departure from a flat frequency response, to go with all the other
variations from a flat FR due to the recording, the speakers themselves, the
room, etc. etc. The question is how much does this actually matter?

You need to know the R, L and C of cable. It makes a complex filter.


With the output impedance of a decent amp being 2 10ths of FA, the
capacitance of any practical cable doesn't matter. Nor should the
inductance with a properly designed amp. The only thing left - under
normal circumstances, ie likely domestic speaker runs - is the resistance.

Precisely.

David.




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