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Old September 10th 08, 05:49 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
doki
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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That was to treat the acoustics of the room and will have little effect
on sound transmission in/out of it, especially at LF. For that you need
mass - lots of it.


Righto. The building looks very much like a CLASP style of construction, so
I suspect the best bet will be to give the neighbours my number and ask them
to ring me if it's annoying them. Having been present for the demolition of
CLASP buildings, I don't have much hope of listening to music at a decent
volume.

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Old September 10th 08, 08:02 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Doki
wrote:
Has anyone got any experience and suggestions of DIY methods of
isolating speakers from the floor? I'm looking to do it to reduce the
amount of noise transferred through the floor to downstairs, rather
than as a method of altering sound quality.


You could try either isolation mountings of the kind sold for various
engineering purposes, or a half-inflated inner tube. I've used both methods
for optical tables to cut down vibration transfer levels.

It occurs to me that a few layers of bubble-wrap might also do the job if
the speakers aren't too heavy.

However you may find that there is still noise downstairs. And anything
that really isolates may also be unstable, so try these methods with care.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old September 10th 08, 01:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison
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"Jim Lesurf"

You could try either isolation mountings of the kind sold for various
engineering purposes, or a half-inflated inner tube. I've used both
methods
for optical tables to cut down vibration transfer levels.



** Funny how people isolate their TTs from floor vibrations to stop LF
feedback while usually leaving their speakers alone.

Could be because nothing you do with them makes much difference.

Funny that.......



...... Phil



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Old September 10th 08, 02:22 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Gijs Rietveld
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"Doki" schreef in bericht
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Has anyone got any experience and suggestions of DIY methods of isolating
speakers from the floor? I'm looking to do it to reduce the amount of
noise transferred through the floor to downstairs, rather than as a method
of altering sound quality.

My Infinity kappa 600 speakers are well isolated by double tiles of 25kg
each, so 50kg per speaker and between the tiles are very simple tabs wich
are normaly used for furniture to preserve scratches on the floor.
Gijs


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Old September 10th 08, 04:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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My Infinity kappa 600 speakers are well isolated by double tiles of 25kg
each, so 50kg per speaker and between the tiles are very simple tabs wich
are normaly used for furniture to preserve scratches on the floor.



Are they of particular historical interest?

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Old September 10th 08, 03:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Gijs
Rietveld wrote:

"Doki" schreef in bericht
...
Has anyone got any experience and suggestions of DIY methods of
isolating speakers from the floor? I'm looking to do it to reduce the
amount of noise transferred through the floor to downstairs, rather
than as a method of altering sound quality.

My Infinity kappa 600 speakers are well isolated by double tiles of
25kg each, so 50kg per speaker and between the tiles are very simple
tabs wich are normaly used for furniture to preserve scratches on the
floor. Gijs


How did you work out or measure the LF turnover point of the above as an
isolation filter, and what value did you get? :-)

Particulary curious to know the spring and loss coefficients of the 'tabs',
and the effective mass/ compliance the floor presents to the things above
it.

Slainte,

Jim

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Change 'noise' to 'jcgl' if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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Old September 11th 08, 05:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Gijs Rietveld
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"Jim Lesurf" schreef in bericht
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In article , Gijs
Rietveld wrote:

"Doki" schreef in bericht
...
Has anyone got any experience and suggestions of DIY methods of
isolating speakers from the floor? I'm looking to do it to reduce the
amount of noise transferred through the floor to downstairs, rather
than as a method of altering sound quality.

My Infinity kappa 600 speakers are well isolated by double tiles of
25kg each, so 50kg per speaker and between the tiles are very simple
tabs wich are normaly used for furniture to preserve scratches on the
floor. Gijs


How did you work out or measure the LF turnover point of the above as an
isolation filter, and what value did you get? :-)

Particulary curious to know the spring and loss coefficients of the
'tabs',
and the effective mass/ compliance the floor presents to the things above
it.

Slainte,

Jim


Simple, my neighbours do not complaint anymore......
So, it works.
Gijs


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Old September 12th 08, 07:58 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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Default Isolating speakers from the floor

In article , Gijs
Rietveld wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" schreef in bericht
...

My Infinity kappa 600 speakers are well isolated by double tiles of
25kg each, so 50kg per speaker and between the tiles are very simple
tabs wich are normaly used for furniture to preserve scratches on the
floor. Gijs


How did you work out or measure the LF turnover point of the above as
an isolation filter, and what value did you get? :-)

Particulary curious to know the spring and loss coefficients of the
'tabs', and the effective mass/ compliance the floor presents to the
things above it.


Simple, my neighbours do not complaint anymore...... So, it works. Gijs


So they may have either decided it would be a waste of time to go on
objecting, or your music is so loud you can't hear them knocking on your
door? :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
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Old September 12th 08, 12:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
Simple, my neighbours do not complaint anymore...... So, it works.
Gijs


So they may have either decided it would be a waste of time to go on
objecting, or your music is so loud you can't hear them knocking on your
door? :-)


More likely prolonged exposure to his music has made them deaf too.

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Old September 10th 08, 02:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian[_3_]
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"Doki" wrote in message
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Has anyone got any experience and suggestions of DIY methods of isolating
speakers from the floor? I'm looking to do it to reduce the amount of
noise transferred through the floor to downstairs, rather than as a method
of altering sound quality.

You can't do much about it. Using stands will do no good. If it is bass
that can be heard
you just need to turn it down. It is the sound that can be heard and not
from the actual
case itself.


 




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