Apologies if this has been raised before... this is my first visit to
the NG.

I have 600+ CDs in my collection, and we're in the process of renovating
the house. At the moment they're all stacked up in inaccessible piles,
ready for the fitting of a new shelving system in which to store them
permanently once all the work is done.

....and then someone pointed me towards an iPod for the first time, and I
saw the possibilities of saving a whole stack of cash and space by not
getting any proper shelving at all, and simply putting all my music onto
an iPod instead.

The logic here is pretty sound, except for the sound itself. The quality
of the compressed files on the iPod when played through my hi-fi system
leaves something to be desired. (And, although an iPod has incredible
storage capacity for it's small size, it would not take my entire
collection in an uncompressed state.)

I have been so satisfied with my aged hi-fi system that I have sort of
'lost the plot' as regards the current state of the art, but the iPod
idea set me thinking...

Is there is a hi-fi unit sized machine available on the market yet which
has the capacity to enable digital storage of several hundred
_uncompressed_ CDs? I think I'm talking in TBs here.

What I am thinking of would be a sort of non-portable 'grown-up' iPod,
which would have all the convenience of the iPod combined with the sound
quality of a genuine hi-fi unit.

Does one exist yet?

Regards,
Meehan

Meehan Mydog wrote:
Apologies if this has been raised before... this is my first visit to
the NG.

I have 600+ CDs in my collection, and we're in the process of renovating
the house. At the moment they're all stacked up in inaccessible piles,
ready for the fitting of a new shelving system in which to store them
permanently once all the work is done.

...and then someone pointed me towards an iPod for the first time, and I
saw the possibilities of saving a whole stack of cash and space by not
getting any proper shelving at all, and simply putting all my music onto
an iPod instead.

The logic here is pretty sound, except for the sound itself. The quality
of the compressed files on the iPod when played through my hi-fi system
leaves something to be desired. (And, although an iPod has incredible
storage capacity for it's small size, it would not take my entire
collection in an uncompressed state.)

I have been so satisfied with my aged hi-fi system that I have sort of
'lost the plot' as regards the current state of the art, but the iPod
idea set me thinking...

Is there is a hi-fi unit sized machine available on the market yet which
has the capacity to enable digital storage of several hundred
_uncompressed_ CDs? I think I'm talking in TBs here.

What I am thinking of would be a sort of non-portable 'grown-up' iPod,
which would have all the convenience of the iPod combined with the sound
quality of a genuine hi-fi unit.

Does one exist yet?

Regards,
Meehan





My main wish for an iPod is that it should have no associated pc
software - just appear as a hard drive, so I can do my own managing.

d

In article , Don
Pearce
wrote:


My main wish for an iPod is that it should have no associated pc
software - just appear as a hard drive, so I can do my own managing.

Are there no portable music replay devices that do that? I might be
interested in one I could load standard LPCM files onto as a USB HD. But I
am averse to both 'data reduced' formats and to the operating systems
implied by the 'management' software which something like an iPod seems to
demand.

I have wondered also about devices like the Olympus and Zoom recorders on
this basis...

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Don
Pearce
wrote:


My main wish for an iPod is that it should have no associated pc
software - just appear as a hard drive, so I can do my own managing.

Are there no portable music replay devices that do that? I might be
interested in one I could load standard LPCM files onto as a USB HD. But I
am averse to both 'data reduced' formats and to the operating systems
implied by the 'management' software which something like an iPod seems to
demand.

I have wondered also about devices like the Olympus and Zoom recorders on
this basis...

Slainte,

Jim


I have a TomTom sat nav that appears as a drive on my PC, and has a
directory called MP3, in which I can put music files, but that is
obviously for the car only. It can't play lpcm or anything but mp3.

d

Don Pearce wrote:

I have a TomTom sat nav that appears as a drive on my PC, and has a
directory called MP3, in which I can put music files, but that is
obviously for the car only. It can't play lpcm or anything but mp3.

Over a few hundred tracks, you'll need *some* management software if not
iTunes. Show me an explorer folder of an MP3 device, and folder on a
hard drive and ask me to identify non-matched or duplicated (i.e.
non-replicated) files, and I'll run thaaaaaaaaat way ..... -

--
Adrian C

Adrian C wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:

I have a TomTom sat nav that appears as a drive on my PC, and has a
directory called MP3, in which I can put music files, but that is
obviously for the car only. It can't play lpcm or anything but mp3.

Over a few hundred tracks, you'll need *some* management software if not
iTunes. Show me an explorer folder of an MP3 device, and folder on a
hard drive and ask me to identify non-matched or duplicated (i.e.
non-replicated) files, and I'll run thaaaaaaaaat way ..... -


My music folder is pretty well managed manually. The first layer is the
artist, after that an album name (or misc), followed by the music itself.

d

Don Pearce writes:

Meehan Mydog wrote:
Apologies if this has been raised before... this is my first visit to
the NG.
snip
which would have all the convenience of the iPod combined with the sound
quality of a genuine hi-fi unit.
Does one exist yet?
Regards,
Meehan


My main wish for an iPod is that it should have no associated pc
software - just appear as a hard drive, so I can do my own managing.

Forget about iPods then.

But there are other makes that do exactly this. I have an iAudio U3
(Korean stuff, several years old) that works like any USB-stick as
far as the computer is concerned (Windows, Linux and quite possibly
MacOS). It plays mp3s, oggs and more.

--
Martin Schöön

"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back"
Piet Hein

Meehan Mydog wrote:

The logic here is pretty sound, except for the sound itself. The quality
of the compressed files on the iPod when played through my hi-fi system
leaves something to be desired.

I hope you are *not* using the headphone connector to connect! Find a
docking station and connect to that.

(And, although an iPod has incredible
storage capacity for it's small size, it would not take my entire
collection in an uncompressed state.)


I use a Slimdevices (now logitech) Squeezebox 3 with a cheap HP proliant
server for storage, for the house. That bunch is not HiFi unit shaped,
but the server lives at the bottom of the garden in a shed so I don't
see it. The unit itself is small but with a clear display you can see
for quite a distance.

http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html

Lately, they have come out with the HiFi shaped 'unload your wallet'
Transporter

http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html

Then, then the hide it away 'Duet' with colour LCD controller

http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html

Lastly, the 'boom' (which I'm tempted to use as a kick-ass clock radio)

http://www.slimdevices.com/

There is also Sonus who do the same type of thing comparable with the
Duet for multi-room.

http://www.sonos.com

And others I have missed .... :-)

--
Adrian C

Meehan Mydog wrote:


What I am thinking of would be a sort of non-portable 'grown-up' iPod,
which would have all the convenience of the iPod combined with the sound
quality of a genuine hi-fi unit.

Does one exist yet?

Regards,
Meehan



http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html
http://www.roku.com/products_soundbridge.php
http://www.helios-labs.com/us/produc...ch_specs.shtml

For a start

--
Nick

"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Meehan Mydog wrote:


What I am thinking of would be a sort of non-portable 'grown-up' iPod,
which would have all the convenience of the iPod combined with the sound
quality of a genuine hi-fi unit.

Does one exist yet?

Regards,
Meehan



http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html
http://www.roku.com/products_soundbridge.php
http://www.helios-labs.com/us/produc...ch_specs.shtml

For a start


But it'd probably be cheaper to put up those shelves!

David.