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Old October 15th 08, 05:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
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tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus
Robert Orban wrote:
says...

Seems to be tricky to find anything actually.

This mic has a max input SPL of 134dB which receives the comment "Hi-SPL
handling is perfect for suspension over choirs and orchestras"

http://www.dv247.com/invt/11582/

Try this:

Dynamic-Range Requirement for Subjectively Noise-Free Reproduction of Music
JAES Volume 30 Issue 7/8 pp. 504-511; August 1982

A dynamic range of up to 118 dB is determined necessary for subjectively
noise-free reproeuction of music in an audio recorder with a white-noise
floor. Maximum peak sound-pressure levels in music are compared to the minimum
discernible level of white noise in a quiet listening situation. Microphone
noise limitations, monitoring loudspeaker capabilities, and performance
environment noise levels are also considered.

Author: Fielder, Louis D.
Affiliation: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City, CA


Well, I never imagined I'd have Bob Orban backing me up on a technical issue !

Thanks Bob !

Graham


Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer


You can't win 'em all !

Graham


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Old October 15th 08, 07:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
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In article , Eeyore rabbitsfriendsandrel
scribeth thus


tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus
Robert Orban wrote:
says...

Seems to be tricky to find anything actually.

This mic has a max input SPL of 134dB which receives the comment "Hi-SPL
handling is perfect for suspension over choirs and orchestras"

http://www.dv247.com/invt/11582/

Try this:

Dynamic-Range Requirement for Subjectively Noise-Free Reproduction of Music
JAES Volume 30 Issue 7/8 pp. 504-511; August 1982

A dynamic range of up to 118 dB is determined necessary for subjectively
noise-free reproeuction of music in an audio recorder with a white-noise
floor. Maximum peak sound-pressure levels in music are compared to the

minimum
discernible level of white noise in a quiet listening situation. Microphone
noise limitations, monitoring loudspeaker capabilities, and performance
environment noise levels are also considered.

Author: Fielder, Louis D.
Affiliation: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City, CA

Well, I never imagined I'd have Bob Orban backing me up on a technical issue

!

Thanks Bob !

Graham


Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer


You can't win 'em all !


No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..

Graham



--
Tony Sayer


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Old October 15th 08, 10:01 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:58:29 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Eeyore rabbitsfriendsandrel
scribeth thus


tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus
Robert Orban wrote:
says...

Seems to be tricky to find anything actually.

This mic has a max input SPL of 134dB which receives the comment "Hi-SPL
handling is perfect for suspension over choirs and orchestras"

http://www.dv247.com/invt/11582/

Try this:

Dynamic-Range Requirement for Subjectively Noise-Free Reproduction of Music
JAES Volume 30 Issue 7/8 pp. 504-511; August 1982

A dynamic range of up to 118 dB is determined necessary for subjectively
noise-free reproeuction of music in an audio recorder with a white-noise
floor. Maximum peak sound-pressure levels in music are compared to the

minimum
discernible level of white noise in a quiet listening situation. Microphone
noise limitations, monitoring loudspeaker capabilities, and performance
environment noise levels are also considered.

Author: Fielder, Louis D.
Affiliation: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City, CA

Well, I never imagined I'd have Bob Orban backing me up on a technical issue

!

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer


You can't win 'em all !


No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..

Graham


What station's that then?


Marky P.
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Old October 16th 08, 07:55 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
tony sayer
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In article , Marky P
scribeth thus
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:58:29 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Eeyore rabbitsfriendsandrel
scribeth thus


tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus
Robert Orban wrote:
says...

Seems to be tricky to find anything actually.

This mic has a max input SPL of 134dB which receives the comment "Hi-SPL
handling is perfect for suspension over choirs and orchestras"

http://www.dv247.com/invt/11582/

Try this:

Dynamic-Range Requirement for Subjectively Noise-Free Reproduction of

Music
JAES Volume 30 Issue 7/8 pp. 504-511; August 1982

A dynamic range of up to 118 dB is determined necessary for subjectively
noise-free reproeuction of music in an audio recorder with a white-noise
floor. Maximum peak sound-pressure levels in music are compared to the
minimum
discernible level of white noise in a quiet listening situation.

Microphone
noise limitations, monitoring loudspeaker capabilities, and performance
environment noise levels are also considered.

Author: Fielder, Louis D.
Affiliation: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City, CA

Well, I never imagined I'd have Bob Orban backing me up on a technical

issue
!

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer

You can't win 'em all !


No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..

Graham


What station's that then?


http://www.209radio.co.uk

Soon to have a new upgraded mixed polarisation aerial system to improve
coverage..

Pix on mb21 as soon as its done, with the newly refurbished one at Ely
Cathedral..

Marky P.


--
Tony Sayer

Bancom Communications U.K. Tel+44 1223 566577 Fax+44 1223 566588

4 Wingate close, Cambridge, England, CB2 9HW E-Mail


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Old October 16th 08, 08:13 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:55:57 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Marky P
scribeth thus
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:58:29 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Eeyore rabbitsfriendsandrel
scribeth thus


tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus
Robert Orban wrote:
says...

Seems to be tricky to find anything actually.

This mic has a max input SPL of 134dB which receives the comment "Hi-SPL
handling is perfect for suspension over choirs and orchestras"

http://www.dv247.com/invt/11582/

Try this:

Dynamic-Range Requirement for Subjectively Noise-Free Reproduction of

Music
JAES Volume 30 Issue 7/8 pp. 504-511; August 1982

A dynamic range of up to 118 dB is determined necessary for subjectively
noise-free reproeuction of music in an audio recorder with a white-noise
floor. Maximum peak sound-pressure levels in music are compared to the
minimum
discernible level of white noise in a quiet listening situation.

Microphone
noise limitations, monitoring loudspeaker capabilities, and performance
environment noise levels are also considered.

Author: Fielder, Louis D.
Affiliation: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City, CA

Well, I never imagined I'd have Bob Orban backing me up on a technical

issue
!

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer

You can't win 'em all !

No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..

Graham


What station's that then?


http://www.209radio.co.uk

Soon to have a new upgraded mixed polarisation aerial system to improve
coverage..

Pix on mb21 as soon as its done, with the newly refurbished one at Ely
Cathedral..

Marky P.


Oh, of course. Should've known ;-)


Marky P.
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Old October 15th 08, 10:04 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
Eeyore
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tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer


You can't win 'em all !


No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..


What's a community station ? :-(

For me, radio is all but finished. Apart from Radio 4 of course. It's the same pap
from every broadcaster. I can even recall several times changing channel and finding
the very same track being played on the new one. Grrrrrrrr.

Graham

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Old October 16th 08, 08:06 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
tony sayer
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In article , Eeyore rabbitsfriendsandrel
scribeth thus


tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer

You can't win 'em all !


No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..


What's a community station ? :-(

For me, radio is all but finished. Apart from Radio 4 of course. It's the same
pap
from every broadcaster. I can even recall several times changing channel and
finding
the very same track being played on the new one. Grrrrrrrr.


Its a version of small scale local radio with very public access to
offer more locally focused programming.

Some downright weird .. some wonderful

Sunday's are excellent and "evening under lamplight" is as good as
anything the BBC could produce..


But NO centralised playlists and no talking down to the listener like
BBC local radio. Almost entirely staffed by volunteers..

http://www.209radio.co.uk/schedule/




Graham


--
Tony Sayer



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Old October 16th 08, 08:13 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
Marky P
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:04:45 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



tony sayer wrote:

Eeyore scribeth thus

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer

You can't win 'em all !


No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..


What's a community station ? :-(

For me, radio is all but finished. Apart from Radio 4 of course. It's the same pap
from every broadcaster. I can even recall several times changing channel and finding
the very same track being played on the new one. Grrrrrrrr.

Graham


People used to slag off ILR radio in the past, but it's much worse now
than it's ever been! Haven't listened in a long time (only for
evaluation purposes).


Marky P.
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Old October 16th 08, 01:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
Eeyore
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Marky P wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
tony sayer wrote:
Eeyore scribeth thus

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer

You can't win 'em all !

No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..


What's a community station ? :-(

For me, radio is all but finished. Apart from Radio 4 of course. It's the same pap
from every broadcaster. I can even recall several times changing channel and finding
the very same track being played on the new one. Grrrrrrrr.


People used to slag off ILR radio in the past, but it's much worse now
than it's ever been! Haven't listened in a long time (only for
evaluation purposes).


BBC local radio is better ( three counties here ) but it's still sonic wallpaper. And the
number of people who ring in about their cat / dog / hamster etc. Drives you up the wall.



Graham

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Old October 16th 08, 01:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.tech
Marky P
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:02:20 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



Marky P wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
tony sayer wrote:
Eeyore scribeth thus

Thanks Bob !

Graham

Him being the one who will be criticised on other groups for making DAB
and FM ever more distorted;!...
--
Tony Sayer

You can't win 'em all !

No but theres a local station round these parts where the engineer does
give a monkeys but the programme controller only knows LOUD LOUD and
LOUDER!!! cos the bloke at the other station down the road is the same;;

All thinking LOUD is better..

The local community station ****es over all of them for absolute sound
quality)..

What's a community station ? :-(

For me, radio is all but finished. Apart from Radio 4 of course. It's the same pap
from every broadcaster. I can even recall several times changing channel and finding
the very same track being played on the new one. Grrrrrrrr.


People used to slag off ILR radio in the past, but it's much worse now
than it's ever been! Haven't listened in a long time (only for
evaluation purposes).


BBC local radio is better ( three counties here ) but it's still sonic wallpaper. And the
number of people who ring in about their cat / dog / hamster etc. Drives you up the wall.



Graham


Three Counties here too (near St. Neots). Actually, I think BBC local
radio has generally improved over the years. I prefer talk radio to
music radio generally.

Marky P.
 




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