Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Well, real is no great loss quality wise, but you really do need the
windows media formats as they do have one of the best sounds.

Afraid I cannae be bothered to waste my time with 'doze. Easier to get the
things I want in other ways. TBH I can live without net radio if no-one is
providing what I was interested in. :-)


I think if you can suffer one of the mainstream OSs you'll find it
*saves* you time.

I've just had a quick look at my computer's media player (iTunes) and I
can see several hundred internet radio stations listed.

Rob

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
Hi,

During the last week or so I finally changed over to broadband for my
connection. One of the things I have since started to explore is 'internet
radio'. However I haven't yet found much that is interesting. Wondering if
this is because I haven't yet looked in the right places, or if it isn't
present! :-)

My interest is in three areas of music.

1) 'Classical' music. By this I don't just mean clones of Classic FM. But
stations that are as likely to play Stravinsky or Britten as Beethoven or
Brahms.

2) 'Classical Indian'. Again, I don't just mean Ravi Shankar or Bangra.
:-) I am also interested in other forms of non-European 'classical' music
like those from the 'far east'.

3) Jazz. As with the above, with a decent range of content. Not just 'easy
listening' or 'MOR' under another name.

FWIW Since I don't use windows/mac/linux I can't access 'real audio' or
'wma' streams. So am looking for open formats based on mp3, etc.
Preferrably 192kbps or 128kbps to make the results worth hearing.

Anyone know of some good stations, or can point me to websites that list
them? Or don't they exist?...

Slainte,

Jim

--

Go to www.reciva.com - that is where the WiFi radios get their station lists
and
feeds from. If it is not on there then forget it. Why bother with the
radio when
you can listen through a PC.
As always, if it is "digital" it's crap - so sounds like a Medium wave
station on
a good day. Some stations are mono with low bitrates like the "crystal
clear" DAB
system the UK was inflicted with. Worse than FM stereo!

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

In article ,
James R wrote:
Why bother with the radio when you can listen through a PC. As always,
if it is "digital" it's crap - so sounds like a Medium wave station on
a good day. Some stations are mono with low bitrates like the "crystal
clear" DAB system the UK was inflicted with. Worse than FM stereo!

You may not have noticed that Mr Lesurf is mainly interested in classical
music and R3 uses a higher bitrate than other DAB stations. Which will in
most cases sound better than FM if you have a less than perfect signal for
that.
Other option is a FreeView tuner for radio. Not everyone will want a
noisy PC in the room if they're doing serious radio listening.

BTW - I've never heard a decent DAB radio sound as bad as MW.

--
*Aim Low, Reach Your Goals, Avoid Disappointment *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...


BTW - I've never heard a decent DAB radio sound as bad as MW.


Where I live in East Anglia, MW is pretty much useless. The only station I
can at anything approaching usable quality is BBC World Service, everything
else is buried under a mush of interference. OTOH I do get excellent BBC FM
from a transmitter just a few miles away and I also use digital satellite
for stations that aren't on FM. Until recently I had never listened to DAB,
but I bought my daughter a DAB radio for Christmas (she's a fan of BBC7) and
I was pleasantly surprised at how good it sounded after seeing DAB regularly
rubbished here.

David.

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
James R wrote:
Why bother with the radio when you can listen through a PC. As always,
if it is "digital" it's crap - so sounds like a Medium wave station on
a good day. Some stations are mono with low bitrates like the "crystal
clear" DAB system the UK was inflicted with. Worse than FM stereo!

You may not have noticed that Mr Lesurf is mainly interested in classical
music and R3 uses a higher bitrate than other DAB stations.

Not consistantly. They use (barely acceptable) 192 kbps in the evening,
but frequently this drops to 160 during the day.

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

In article ,
Adrian C wrote:

Consider purchasing an 'internet radio'. No messing about with software,
unless ye want to :-)

I may do so, eventually. The idea then would be a device that also offers
LPCM digital output for passing to a decent DAC and/or recording. But at
present I'm just exploring and experimenting to see what 'stations' are
available and how well they work.

Slainte,

Jim

--
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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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In article ,
Mildew Spores wrote:
http://krfc.serverroom.us:4786/hifi.m3u

http://www.nederland.fm/


http://mikesradioworld.com/

Many thanks for the above! :-) Foillowing just a brief look at the above
sites I was able to get streams from stations like Bayern, Netherlands
Radio 4 Live, etc, at quite healthy datarates.

Not sure if my experience so far is a reliable guide. But yesterday I
seemed to have no problem getting reliable 192 or 256 kbps streams from
some european stations. Many more, now, to try... :-)

Wonder why my google searches failed to throw up the above addresses. I
felt sure some decent lists and stations must exist, but until you posted
the above I failed to track any down, with the single exception of the
rather obscure KUAT.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Change 'noise' to 'jcgl' if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

In article , Eiron
wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:

...just checked and they are playing Shostakovitch. If I've typed it
in correctly

You seem to have added some extra letters - ostakovch. :-)

Afraid there are problems with my translations from Cyrillic. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

--
Change 'noise' to 'jcgl' if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , James R
wrote:
Why bother with the radio when you can listen through a PC. As always,
if it is "digital" it's crap - so sounds like a Medium wave station on
a good day. Some stations are mono with low bitrates like the
"crystal clear" DAB system the UK was inflicted with. Worse than FM
stereo!

You may not have noticed that Mr Lesurf is mainly interested in
classical music and R3 uses a higher bitrate than other DAB stations.
Which will in most cases sound better than FM if you have a less than
perfect signal for that. Other option is a FreeView tuner for radio. Not
everyone will want a noisy PC in the room if they're doing serious radio
listening.

FWIW In recent years I have ended up preferring R3 via DTTV. This is using
systems which have decent FM tuners that allow me to do A/B comparisons
whenever I wish. IIRC I've summarised the reasons on this group more than
once, so won't recap.

Also, it seems to me at present at least plausible that decent stations
with mp3 rates of 192kbps or higher should not sound poorer than DTTV R3 -
provided of course that the broadcasters provide good source material and I
can get reliable 'reception'.

Hard for me to assess this at present as I'm just using my computer's DACs
and an application to act as tuner. If nothing else, I have reasons to
expect the computer part of that to be less than 'audiophile'. :-) But I
may well try out an 'internet radio' if my experiences in the next few
weeks make that seem worth exploring. At present I am simply exploring and
finding out what may be available.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Change 'noise' to 'jcgl' if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Internet radio - classical music, etc
 

In article , James R
scribeth thus

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
Hi,

During the last week or so I finally changed over to broadband for my
connection. One of the things I have since started to explore is 'internet
radio'. However I haven't yet found much that is interesting. Wondering if
this is because I haven't yet looked in the right places, or if it isn't
present! :-)

My interest is in three areas of music.

1) 'Classical' music. By this I don't just mean clones of Classic FM. But
stations that are as likely to play Stravinsky or Britten as Beethoven or
Brahms.

2) 'Classical Indian'. Again, I don't just mean Ravi Shankar or Bangra.
:-) I am also interested in other forms of non-European 'classical' music
like those from the 'far east'.

3) Jazz. As with the above, with a decent range of content. Not just 'easy
listening' or 'MOR' under another name.

FWIW Since I don't use windows/mac/linux I can't access 'real audio' or
'wma' streams. So am looking for open formats based on mp3, etc.
Preferrably 192kbps or 128kbps to make the results worth hearing.

Anyone know of some good stations, or can point me to websites that list
them? Or don't they exist?...

Slainte,

Jim

--

Go to www.reciva.com - that is where the WiFi radios get their station lists
and
feeds from. If it is not on there then forget it. Why bother with the
radio when
you can listen through a PC.
As always, if it is "digital" it's crap - so sounds like a Medium wave
station on
a good day. Some stations are mono with low bitrates like the "crystal
clear" DAB
system the UK was inflicted with. Worse than FM stereo!



In fact we now have Two of these units.. FM and Internet for general
purpose listening they work very well over our home wireless link..

For more serious use FM and Satellite:)..
--
Tony Sayer