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Internet radio - classical music, etc
Hi,
During the last week or so I finally changed over to broadband for my connection. One of the things I have since started to explore is 'internet radio'. However I haven't yet found much that is interesting. Wondering if this is because I haven't yet looked in the right places, or if it isn't present! :-) My interest is in three areas of music. 1) 'Classical' music. By this I don't just mean clones of Classic FM. But stations that are as likely to play Stravinsky or Britten as Beethoven or Brahms. 2) 'Classical Indian'. Again, I don't just mean Ravi Shankar or Bangra. :-) I am also interested in other forms of non-European 'classical' music like those from the 'far east'. 3) Jazz. As with the above, with a decent range of content. Not just 'easy listening' or 'MOR' under another name. FWIW Since I don't use windows/mac/linux I can't access 'real audio' or 'wma' streams. So am looking for open formats based on mp3, etc. Preferrably 192kbps or 128kbps to make the results worth hearing. Anyone know of some good stations, or can point me to websites that list them? Or don't they exist?... Slainte, Jim -- Change 'noise' to 'jcgl' if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:09:43 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote: Hi, During the last week or so I finally changed over to broadband for my connection. One of the things I have since started to explore is 'internet radio'. However I haven't yet found much that is interesting. Wondering if this is because I haven't yet looked in the right places, or if it isn't present! :-) My interest is in three areas of music. 1) 'Classical' music. By this I don't just mean clones of Classic FM. But stations that are as likely to play Stravinsky or Britten as Beethoven or Brahms. 2) 'Classical Indian'. Again, I don't just mean Ravi Shankar or Bangra. :-) I am also interested in other forms of non-European 'classical' music like those from the 'far east'. 3) Jazz. As with the above, with a decent range of content. Not just 'easy listening' or 'MOR' under another name. FWIW Since I don't use windows/mac/linux I can't access 'real audio' or 'wma' streams. So am looking for open formats based on mp3, etc. Preferrably 192kbps or 128kbps to make the results worth hearing. Anyone know of some good stations, or can point me to websites that list them? Or don't they exist?... Slainte, Jim Jim, have a look he http://www.tuner2.com/ Masses of stations, and some of them really high quality with AAC+ compression. Winamp will play these - you must be able to put together a basic windows machine out of odds and sods by now...? d |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
In article 498575e7.89689687@localhost, Don Pearce (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:09:43 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf wrote: Anyone know of some good stations, or can point me to websites that list them? Or don't they exist?... Slainte, Jim Jim, have a look he http://www.tuner2.com/ Thanks. :-) Masses of stations, and some of them really high quality with AAC+ compression. Winamp will play these - you must be able to put together a basic windows machine out of odds and sods by now...? Yes, I've been able to do that for a decade or more. Indeed, I've had a 'doze laptop sitting in the corner for years, and use it for about 30mins per month. However as a matter of choice I don't like using 'doze, and prefer 'open' standards methods. Slainte, Jim d -- Change 'noise' to 'jcgl' if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:56:52 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote: In article 498575e7.89689687@localhost, Don Pearce (Don Pearce) wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:09:43 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf wrote: Anyone know of some good stations, or can point me to websites that list them? Or don't they exist?... Slainte, Jim Jim, have a look he http://www.tuner2.com/ Thanks. :-) Masses of stations, and some of them really high quality with AAC+ compression. Winamp will play these - you must be able to put together a basic windows machine out of odds and sods by now...? Yes, I've been able to do that for a decade or more. Indeed, I've had a 'doze laptop sitting in the corner for years, and use it for about 30mins per month. However as a matter of choice I don't like using 'doze, and prefer 'open' standards methods. Slainte, Jim Ok, but I think by now we will have to call AAC an open standard - it is certainly the best way I know to stream audio at decent quality and reasonable bit rates. d |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
Jim Lesurf wrote:
Hi, During the last week or so I finally changed over to broadband for my connection. One of the things I have since started to explore is 'internet radio'. However I haven't yet found much that is interesting. Wondering if this is because I haven't yet looked in the right places, or if it isn't present! :-) Plenty of jazz radio stations mentioned in this thread on the jazz-west coast mailing list: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group.../message/16493 |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote: Well, real is no great loss quality wise, but you really do need the windows media formats as they do have one of the best sounds. Afraid I cannae be bothered to waste my time with 'doze. Easier to get the things I want in other ways. TBH I can live without net radio if no-one is providing what I was interested in. :-) Very few stations seem to be above evn 64kbits and the windows formats do seem to be able to squeeze listenable stuff out of this, albeit with some loss of phase resolution on stereo. Well, the best classical I've found so far is KUAT Tucson. This is streaming mp3 at 192kbps, and does have a decent variety of classical music. Yesterday they were playing Stravinsky's Pulchinella. (spelling?) At the moment they are playing Sibelius Tapiola. Only listened to each for a short time, and via the mid-fi system in the dining room (Armstrong 600, Spendor LS3/5As) but the results are enjoyable. Also unlike the Swiss bland Classic the announcements are in English... well, American, which is close enough to serve. ;- There are some German stations with 192, in mp3, but they just push out gold station rubbish most of the time. Some of the US community stations like the one in Fort Colins on 96bps has classics shows that sound reasonable. Brian List of URLs? :-) I've now had a look at the 'tuner2.com' list. That only gave me 9 'classical' stations, and with the exception of a Hungarian one, all classicfm clones. When I search it for indian or indian classical I either get nothing, or a bollywood station. Not exactly what I was after! The 'tuner2.com' site only listed a total of just over 200 stations. Surely there are thousands of stations? The KUAT one wasn't on the tuner2 list that I got by searching it for classical. Is there not a bigger site somewhere that gives a more comprehensive listing? One no biassed to the bland and predictable? Surely there should be dozens of stations like KUAT, and bags of indian music stations from the subcontinent? Slainte, Jim -- Change 'noise' to 'jcgl' if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
In article , Jim Lesurf
scribeth thus Hi, During the last week or so I finally changed over to broadband for my connection. One of the things I have since started to explore is 'internet radio'. However I haven't yet found much that is interesting. Wondering if this is because I haven't yet looked in the right places, or if it isn't present! :-) My interest is in three areas of music. 1) 'Classical' music. By this I don't just mean clones of Classic FM. But stations that are as likely to play Stravinsky or Britten as Beethoven or Brahms. Have a look at Bayern Klassik 4 and France Musique dunno what their like on the net but there're sure good on Satellite:)).. 2) 'Classical Indian'. Again, I don't just mean Ravi Shankar or Bangra. :-) I am also interested in other forms of non-European 'classical' music like those from the 'far east'. 3) Jazz. As with the above, with a decent range of content. Not just 'easy listening' or 'MOR' under another name. FWIW Since I don't use windows/mac/linux I can't access 'real audio' or 'wma' streams. So am looking for open formats based on mp3, etc. Preferrably 192kbps or 128kbps to make the results worth hearing. Anyone know of some good stations, or can point me to websites that list them? Or don't they exist?... Slainte, Jim -- Tony Sayer |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:24:32 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote: In article , Brian Gaff wrote: Well, real is no great loss quality wise, but you really do need the windows media formats as they do have one of the best sounds. Afraid I cannae be bothered to waste my time with 'doze. Easier to get the things I want in other ways. TBH I can live without net radio if no-one is providing what I was interested in. :-) Very few stations seem to be above evn 64kbits and the windows formats do seem to be able to squeeze listenable stuff out of this, albeit with some loss of phase resolution on stereo. Well, the best classical I've found so far is KUAT Tucson. This is streaming mp3 at 192kbps, and does have a decent variety of classical music. Yesterday they were playing Stravinsky's Pulchinella. (spelling?) At the moment they are playing Sibelius Tapiola. Only listened to each for a short time, and via the mid-fi system in the dining room (Armstrong 600, Spendor LS3/5As) but the results are enjoyable. Also unlike the Swiss bland Classic the announcements are in English... well, American, which is close enough to serve. ;- There are some German stations with 192, in mp3, but they just push out gold station rubbish most of the time. Some of the US community stations like the one in Fort Colins on 96bps has classics shows that sound reasonable. Brian List of URLs? :-) I've now had a look at the 'tuner2.com' list. That only gave me 9 'classical' stations, and with the exception of a Hungarian one, all classicfm clones. When I search it for indian or indian classical I either get nothing, or a bollywood station. Not exactly what I was after! The 'tuner2.com' site only listed a total of just over 200 stations. Surely there are thousands of stations? The KUAT one wasn't on the tuner2 list that I got by searching it for classical. Is there not a bigger site somewhere that gives a more comprehensive listing? One no biassed to the bland and predictable? Surely there should be dozens of stations like KUAT, and bags of indian music stations from the subcontinent? Jim - just tried to listen to KUAT, but it isn't on the air right now, so tried KUAZ, its sister station instead. Very odd - no discernable stereo image. I thought at first it was being sent out of phase, but no. Instead there is a delay of about 3msec between left and right. No idea what may have happened there. d |
Internet radio - classical music, etc
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:57:14 GMT, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:24:32 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf wrote: In article , Brian Gaff wrote: Well, real is no great loss quality wise, but you really do need the windows media formats as they do have one of the best sounds. Afraid I cannae be bothered to waste my time with 'doze. Easier to get the things I want in other ways. TBH I can live without net radio if no-one is providing what I was interested in. :-) Very few stations seem to be above evn 64kbits and the windows formats do seem to be able to squeeze listenable stuff out of this, albeit with some loss of phase resolution on stereo. Well, the best classical I've found so far is KUAT Tucson. This is streaming mp3 at 192kbps, and does have a decent variety of classical music. Yesterday they were playing Stravinsky's Pulchinella. (spelling?) At the moment they are playing Sibelius Tapiola. Only listened to each for a short time, and via the mid-fi system in the dining room (Armstrong 600, Spendor LS3/5As) but the results are enjoyable. Also unlike the Swiss bland Classic the announcements are in English... well, American, which is close enough to serve. ;- There are some German stations with 192, in mp3, but they just push out gold station rubbish most of the time. Some of the US community stations like the one in Fort Colins on 96bps has classics shows that sound reasonable. Brian List of URLs? :-) I've now had a look at the 'tuner2.com' list. That only gave me 9 'classical' stations, and with the exception of a Hungarian one, all classicfm clones. When I search it for indian or indian classical I either get nothing, or a bollywood station. Not exactly what I was after! The 'tuner2.com' site only listed a total of just over 200 stations. Surely there are thousands of stations? The KUAT one wasn't on the tuner2 list that I got by searching it for classical. Is there not a bigger site somewhere that gives a more comprehensive listing? One no biassed to the bland and predictable? Surely there should be dozens of stations like KUAT, and bags of indian music stations from the subcontinent? Jim - just tried to listen to KUAT, but it isn't on the air right now, so tried KUAZ, its sister station instead. Very odd - no discernable stereo image. I thought at first it was being sent out of phase, but no. Instead there is a delay of about 3msec between left and right. No idea what may have happened there. d Just recorded a chunk of a few seconds. First half is as received, then the second is after I have fixed it in Adobe Audition by re-aligning the L&R channels. http://81.174.169.10/odds/kuaz.mp3 I don't know how they could get this so badly wrong. d |
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