In article 4987a9b2.102949921@localhost, Don Pearce (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:24:32 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Jim - just tried to listen to KUAT, but it isn't on the air right now,
so tried KUAZ, its sister station instead.

When I tried the URL I have for their webpage this morning their server
gave me an error. Ditto if I tried to get to the KUAT page from the main
'Arizona' page. So I guess the either have a problem or are changing their
web resources.

Not tried KUAZ so can't comment on that. I'll check to see if KUAT is 'on
air'. If so, I'll post the pls details I have.

....just checked and they are playing Shostakovitch. If I've typed it in
correctly the stream address I have is

http://streaming.azpm.org:80/kuat192.mp3

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf wrote:

...just checked and they are playing Shostakovitch. If I've typed it in
correctly

You seem to have added some extra letters - ostakovch. :-)

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On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:56:59 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article 4987a9b2.102949921@localhost, Don Pearce (Don Pearce) wrote:
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:24:32 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Jim - just tried to listen to KUAT, but it isn't on the air right now,
so tried KUAZ, its sister station instead.

When I tried the URL I have for their webpage this morning their server
gave me an error. Ditto if I tried to get to the KUAT page from the main
'Arizona' page. So I guess the either have a problem or are changing their
web resources.

Not tried KUAZ so can't comment on that. I'll check to see if KUAT is 'on
air'. If so, I'll post the pls details I have.

...just checked and they are playing Shostakovitch. If I've typed it in
correctly the stream address I have is

http://streaming.azpm.org:80/kuat192.mp3

KUAT sounds just fine - fairly good image. KUAZ is still all over the
place. If KUAT is using 192kb/sec I would say it is doing not quite as
well as AAC at 64kb/sec. Amazing what they can cram into a codec these
days.

d

There are lots of sites, like Mike's Radio World, but classical, and indeed
anything in India are nearly all rubbish quality.
I have had problems with streaming above about 96 bps at congested times in
the UK, there are often gaps and hiccups as if there is a problem somewhere
else in the chain of interconnects.
Even the Aussie DIG stations appear to now be using 80 bps and win media
feeds.
I really must stress that the win media feeds are now streets ahead of the
others for listenable compression.
Do not bother with China, they seem to be all real and rubbish bit rates.
Brian

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Brian Gaff
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Well, real is no great loss quality wise, but you really do need the
windows media formats as they do have one of the best sounds.

Afraid I cannae be bothered to waste my time with 'doze. Easier to get the
things I want in other ways. TBH I can live without net radio if no-one is
providing what I was interested in. :-)

Very few stations seem to be above evn 64kbits and the windows formats
do seem to be able to squeeze listenable stuff out of this, albeit with
some loss of phase resolution on stereo.

Well, the best classical I've found so far is KUAT Tucson. This is
streaming mp3 at 192kbps, and does have a decent variety of classical
music. Yesterday they were playing Stravinsky's Pulchinella. (spelling?)
At the moment they are playing Sibelius Tapiola. Only listened to each for
a short time, and via the mid-fi system in the dining room (Armstrong 600,
Spendor LS3/5As) but the results are enjoyable. Also unlike the Swiss
bland
Classic the announcements are in English... well, American, which is close
enough to serve. ;-

There are some German stations with 192, in mp3, but they just push out
gold station rubbish most of the time. Some of the US community
stations like the one in Fort Colins on 96bps has classics shows that
sound reasonable. Brian

List of URLs? :-)

I've now had a look at the 'tuner2.com' list. That only gave me 9
'classical' stations, and with the exception of a Hungarian one, all
classicfm clones. When I search it for indian or indian classical I either
get nothing, or a bollywood station. Not exactly what I was after!

The 'tuner2.com' site only listed a total of just over 200 stations.
Surely
there are thousands of stations? The KUAT one wasn't on the tuner2 list
that I got by searching it for classical.

Is there not a bigger site somewhere that gives a more comprehensive
listing? One no biassed to the bland and predictable? Surely there should
be dozens of stations like KUAT, and bags of indian music stations from
the
subcontinent?

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Well, real is no great loss quality wise, but you really do need the
windows media formats as they do have one of the best sounds.

Afraid I cannae be bothered to waste my time with 'doze. Easier to get the
things I want in other ways. TBH I can live without net radio if no-one is
providing what I was interested in. :-)


I think if you can suffer one of the mainstream OSs you'll find it
*saves* you time.

I've just had a quick look at my computer's media player (iTunes) and I
can see several hundred internet radio stations listed.

Rob

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Very few stations seem to be above evn 64kbits and the windows
formats do seem to
be able to squeeze listenable stuff out of this, albeit with some
loss of
phase resolution on stereo.


There are over 8,000 Internet radio streams on
http://classic.shoutcast.com/ that are using MP3 (or AAC+) at bit
rates of 128 kbps or higher.


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I do find this phrase "BBC is biased towards DAB", odd to say the least. DAB
simply stands for "Digital Audio Broadcasting" it says nothing about coding
standards or bit rates. And internet radio is a completely different animal,
which can exist alongside digital broadcasting, but is hardly a replacement
for it.

David.

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"BBC is biased towards DAB" wrote in message
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I do find this phrase "BBC is biased towards DAB", odd to say the
least.
DAB simply stands for "Digital Audio Broadcasting" it says nothing
about
coding standards or bit rates.


Que? What have coding standards or bit rates have to do with the BBC
being biased towards DAB???


And internet radio is a completely
different animal, which can exist alongside digital broadcasting,
but is
hardly a replacement for it.


But the BBC is extremely biased against Internet radio, so the BBC is
going to push everyone forcefully towards DAB whether that's the best
system for them or not. That's the point.




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"BBC is biased towards DAB" wrote in message
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But the BBC is extremely biased against Internet radio, so the BBC is
going to push everyone forcefully towards DAB whether that's the best
system for them or not. That's the point.


Is it? well well, so all those BBC internet streams are a figment of my
imagination are they?


David.

In article ,
David Looser wrote:
"BBC is biased towards DAB" wrote in message
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I do find this phrase "BBC is biased towards DAB", odd to say the least.
DAB simply stands for "Digital Audio Broadcasting" it says nothing
about coding standards or bit rates. And internet radio is a completely
different animal, which can exist alongside digital broadcasting, but
is hardly a replacement for it.

He's simply a sad person who spends his whole life grizzling about the BBC
and DAB.

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