On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:51:02 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
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Don Pearce wrote in message news:4994bcd6.509565843@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:37:32 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Then I suggest that you borrow your daughter's DAB radio, hook it
up
to a hi-fi and compare it with DAB. You need to do that BEFORE
commenting on the adequacy of the audio quality on DAB - but that
hasn't stopped you so far....




Listen to this. It is a few seconds each of FM and DAB. Which is
which?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/dab_fm.mp3


I'm not playing your little games, Pearce. Sorry.

I knew that when to came to a real test you would prove to be all
mouth. Having proved a failure, you can go.

d

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4995bf86.510253421@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:51:02 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4994bcd6.509565843@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:37:32 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Then I suggest that you borrow your daughter's DAB radio, hook it
up
to a hi-fi and compare it with DAB. You need to do that BEFORE
commenting on the adequacy of the audio quality on DAB - but that
hasn't stopped you so far....




Listen to this. It is a few seconds each of FM and DAB. Which is
which?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/dab_fm.mp3


I'm not playing your little games, Pearce. Sorry.

I knew that when to came to a real test you would prove to be all
mouth. Having proved a failure, you can go.


Oh, I'm staying. Failure? Hardly.




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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:59:21 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
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Don Pearce wrote in message news:4995bf86.510253421@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:51:02 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4994bcd6.509565843@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:37:32 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Then I suggest that you borrow your daughter's DAB radio, hook it
up
to a hi-fi and compare it with DAB. You need to do that BEFORE
commenting on the adequacy of the audio quality on DAB - but that
hasn't stopped you so far....




Listen to this. It is a few seconds each of FM and DAB. Which is
which?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/dab_fm.mp3


I'm not playing your little games, Pearce. Sorry.

I knew that when to came to a real test you would prove to be all
mouth. Having proved a failure, you can go.


Oh, I'm staying. Failure? Hardly.

You have demonstrably failed at everything concerning DAB you have
bragged about attempting, and now having given you the most trivial of
tests that should have been easy for you, you have failed at that too.

d

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4996c0a5.510541125@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:59:21 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4995bf86.510253421@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:51:02 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4994bcd6.509565843@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:37:32 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Then I suggest that you borrow your daughter's DAB radio, hook
it
up
to a hi-fi and compare it with DAB. You need to do that BEFORE
commenting on the adequacy of the audio quality on DAB - but
that
hasn't stopped you so far....




Listen to this. It is a few seconds each of FM and DAB. Which is
which?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/dab_fm.mp3


I'm not playing your little games, Pearce. Sorry.

I knew that when to came to a real test you would prove to be all
mouth. Having proved a failure, you can go.


Oh, I'm staying. Failure? Hardly.

You have demonstrably failed at everything concerning DAB you have
bragged about attempting,


I came up with the idea that led to the design of DAB+, because I'd
been banging on about using mobile TV systems since around 2002/3, and
DAB+ is just the DMB mobile TV system without video support. I also
influenced the decision to design DAB+, because the French
broadcasters quoted my website pretty much verbatim when they argued
against using DAB in their digital radio consultation, and by an
amazing coincidence they proposed to use DVB-H instead, whcih just
happened to be what my website was proposing should be used, because
it was so much more efficient than DAB.

I also helped a couple of people from Sweden stop DAB being adopted,
which was successful, and Sweden is now looking at using DAB+.

It was the French decision not to support DAB that was the main reason
why DAB+ was designed at all though. The UK broadcasters and the DAB
old guard were all trying desperately to hang on and for the whole of
Europe to use DAB, but once France told them where to go the writing
was on the wall, because the mobile TV systems would have been adopted
instead of DAB. I later changed to supporting the use of DMB rather
than DVB-H, and by another amazing coincidence France ended up
choosing DMB for its digital radio system.

Failure? Hardly.

And the fact that so many people know about DAB+ today is down to my
website as well.


and now having given you the most trivial of
tests that should have been easy for you, you have failed at that
too.


I haven't even tried your little game.



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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
I came up with the idea that led to the design of DAB+,

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah...

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In article ,
BBC is biased towards DAB wrote:
I came up with the idea that led to the design of DAB+,

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah...


Tis true, I'm afraid. WTF would you know anyway?



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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4995bf86.510253421@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:51:02 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4994bcd6.509565843@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:37:32 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Then I suggest that you borrow your daughter's DAB radio, hook it
up
to a hi-fi and compare it with DAB. You need to do that BEFORE
commenting on the adequacy of the audio quality on DAB - but that
hasn't stopped you so far....




Listen to this. It is a few seconds each of FM and DAB. Which is
which?

http://81.174.169.10/odds/dab_fm.mp3


I'm not playing your little games, Pearce. Sorry.

I knew that when to came to a real test you would prove to be all
mouth. Having proved a failure, you can go.


BTW, do you have any evidence to back any of these up:

"Because classical music is generally far more complex and demanding
than modern pop - it takes a greater degree of intelligence to
understand and appreciate it."

"CD already has a definition way beyond that of the human auditory
system"

"It is pretty much impossible to compare CD to SACD."

"Since the CD there has not been a single development that has
improved
the sound, so none has been widely adopted by the classical listener."

If you can't, then you're a failure, and you can go, Pearce. On you
trot.



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:06:48 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

BTW, do you have any evidence to back any of these up:

"Because classical music is generally far more complex and demanding
than modern pop - it takes a greater degree of intelligence to
understand and appreciate it."

"CD already has a definition way beyond that of the human auditory
system"

"It is pretty much impossible to compare CD to SACD."

"Since the CD there has not been a single development that has
improved
the sound, so none has been widely adopted by the classical listener."

Go on. prove me wrong in any one of these instances. This should be
interesting - I'll give you a start for each

1. Classical music is less complex and demanding than modern pop
because....

2. The human auditory system has more definition than the CD in the
following areas...

3. It is readily possible to compare CD to SACD - you just...

4. The following developments have improved on the sound of the CD,
resulting in wide adoption by the classical listener...

Over to you. Just complete those sentences.

d

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4997c65d.512004828@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:06:48 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

BTW, do you have any evidence to back any of these up:

"Because classical music is generally far more complex and
demanding
than modern pop - it takes a greater degree of intelligence to
understand and appreciate it."

"CD already has a definition way beyond that of the human auditory
system"

"It is pretty much impossible to compare CD to SACD."

"Since the CD there has not been a single development that has
improved
the sound, so none has been widely adopted by the classical
listener."

Go on. prove me wrong in any one of these instances.


You're the one making the claim, so you should be able to back that
claim up. Apparently it's my inability to do that with your lickle
listening test that made you brand me a failure.

So, step to it, Pearce.


This should be
interesting - I'll give you a start for each

1. Classical music is less complex and demanding than modern pop
because....

2. The human auditory system has more definition than the CD in the
following areas...

3. It is readily possible to compare CD to SACD - you just...

4. The following developments have improved on the sound of the CD,
resulting in wide adoption by the classical listener...

Over to you. Just complete those sentences.


Er, no. I don't think you've quite got the hang of this. You made teh
claims, so you have to back the claims up. Surely that's a simple
thing to understand?




--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:38:52 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote in message news:4997c65d.512004828@localhost
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:06:48 -0000, "BBC is biased towards DAB"
wrote:

BTW, do you have any evidence to back any of these up:

"Because classical music is generally far more complex and
demanding
than modern pop - it takes a greater degree of intelligence to
understand and appreciate it."

"CD already has a definition way beyond that of the human auditory
system"

"It is pretty much impossible to compare CD to SACD."

"Since the CD there has not been a single development that has
improved
the sound, so none has been widely adopted by the classical
listener."

Go on. prove me wrong in any one of these instances.


You're the one making the claim, so you should be able to back that
claim up. Apparently it's my inability to do that with your lickle
listening test that made you brand me a failure.

So, step to it, Pearce.


This should be
interesting - I'll give you a start for each

1. Classical music is less complex and demanding than modern pop
because....

2. The human auditory system has more definition than the CD in the
following areas...

3. It is readily possible to compare CD to SACD - you just...

4. The following developments have improved on the sound of the CD,
resulting in wide adoption by the classical listener...

Over to you. Just complete those sentences.


Er, no. I don't think you've quite got the hang of this. You made teh
claims, so you have to back the claims up. Surely that's a simple
thing to understand?


No, this is how it goes. All my statements are reasonable and in line
with everybody's experience - had it been otherwise somebody would
immediately have picked me up on it. You have now made the
extraordinary assertion that all these things that we hold self
evident are in fact false. This extraordinary claim must be proved.

Now get on with it.

d
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