A subjective test by experts of the SNA inner circle



A while ago someone suggested that a set of Turkish made interconnects and
speaker cables be tested and assessed by a group of know-it-alls on SNA
(Stereo Net Australia). They (the SNA overlords) thought about it for a
while to try and decide who was proficient and suitably qualified (who were
the suck holes actually?) and who wasn't to test these wonders of Turkish
delight. The SNA inner circle can do no wrong, so who better to deliberate
the fate of these wonder cables?



After all, we can't have any old rubbish assessing them, can we? They
might just tell the truth and we can't have that, can we? Where would snake
oil pedlars be with nothing to sell?



So a list was drawn up, of highly proficient audiophiles (Cough! Cough!)
who, no doubt, have far superior hearing to the rest of us. After much
deliberation it was decided on how the cables would travel and more
importantly who would get to test them. Many people were ignored or told
they lived too far away and so, only the trusted inner circle (mates of
Aslan?) prevailed. Trouble was one bloke kept the things for something like
3 months and then they were mysteriously damaged in transit. Of course
nothing was said, why would it, he's a special member with his XYZ posts
to his credit.

And if you can't find someone to blame for the damage, blame the
government, Australia Post are just up to the standard of these Knob Heads



The rules where set, once you had auditioned these wonders you would post
them on to the next expert and forward a report to the forum. Trouble was,
the guy running the thing was a complete ****-wit and surprise, surprise
these $500+ wonders did not come with instructions on how to plug them in!
What a complete joke! Supply directional, shielded cables without any
instructions or markings!!!!! Ha!



We're off to a flying start already, And if that wasn't good enough reason
for the stuff up, this little monument to stupidity was posted by the
owner/maker of these modern wonders.



QUOTE,

The SilverFi interconnects are more than `directional` as can be read on my
website. They can only be used in one way. Red goes to input and blue to the
output. I can say that they are NOT MY cables if used in the opposite
direction. So `junkmail`s feedback (or any other auditioners` who did the
same thing) on the interconnects is not valid. I recommend any other SNA
auditioner not to disclose any commentary on the interconnects who used them
without knowing the directionality.

Since I am not allowed to cite my website please go to 6moons.com reviews
(Please also go to page 1 of this SNA thread and read my post regarding
other reviews) to find out and please read the sections of my SilverFi Cable
blogspot regarding directionality, model names, prices and the philosophy of
the design. Unquote



This was followed by this little gem of the modern world..



QUOTE,

My interconnects being cited as `directional` has more than what it is
thought in the scheme. As I have said earlier the conductors' sections along
the path and ratio/treatment of ingredients of the alloy changes. In plain
words if it is an orange (red input side) from the start it turns out to be
an apple in the end (blue output side). Do not want more, it is a matter of
my little production secret.

__________________
Sezai Saktanber
SilverFi Cable UNQUOTE.





This was reported AFTER the tests where finished.. not too bright
really when you consider the price, Still some people do need
instructions on how to plug in a plug.. dur.



I just had a look at the Website and there is a claim that the cables need
burn-in and improve all the way up to 600 hours!
Can anyone explain what is happening during burn-in? perhaps at the atomic
level ??

So perhaps, after all, the guy that kept them for 3 months was merely
following instructions and burning them in? J



It now ends up the test was null and void. A total farce and a failure. So
where to now?



But not to worry, The pompous arse that runs the site "KEITH W", then
wrote this , Talk about covering your arse. Suck. Suck. It's since been
removed, wonder why?



All right. Saktanbers was kind enough to lend us the cables for us to try. I
feel embarrassed for SNA because:

- we kept the cable 3 times as long as we were supposed to. One member in
particular could not get organized enough to pass the cable on, and as a
result held everyone up.
- as a result, the cables did not reach everyone who volunteered.
- it is my understanding that the cables were damaged whilst in transit.
- and NOW we are attacking saktanbers. MC240, care to clarify what you mean
by "what a joke"? What exactly is the joke, because I don't see any humor in
it.

I think that saktanbers could have been clearer with his instructions on how
to correctly hook up the cables (judging only from the posts above), as a
result the auditioning did not go to his satisfaction. Also, I think that we
made clear before we started that Saktanbers should be prepared to accept
any and all feedback, positive or negative. I don't think he has any cause
to complain if people were dissatisfied with the cable. We are not here to
slap each other on the back and praise audio equipment unquestioningly, but
I think that the behaviour of some of the members has crossed the line of
good manners.



This was another comment that was removed, unfortunately not quite quick
enough for the great unwashed to gather and relay here. Better luck next
time Keith'ee baby.

Quote,

I am ashamed at the lact of tact, manners and common courtesy displayed by
some on any thread relating to others opinions.

"burn in"
"directional or not"

who gives a flying rats if you agree with a given theory or not, there are
other 'threads' were you can vent your spleens guys.

__________________ do you want a review or a snow job.. UNQUOTE.

He's probably been cast into the pit with the rest of the reprobates, never
to be heard from again. Welcome to the club son, take a number.



It was understood that the cable owner Saktanbers, would except any
comments by the reviews, be it good, bad, or plain bloody ugly, But it is
now reported that sanktanbers has accused people of posting 'hate letter'
type stuff about his and his products. Just perhaps they do things
differently in Turkey..



Unfortunately this is one comment that failed to see the light of day on
there little "O So Nice" forum. But not on this board. You wanna say it.
We will read it.



This towelhead snake oil peddler has done this on other forums. He joins up
and within hours after joining suggests members audition his cables. He
then hopes they will receive favorable appraisal and then uses this as free
worldwide advertising. If he was indeed interested in getting honest object
feedback on his product he should take all reasonable comments on board and
act on those comments appropriately. Instead he attacks anyone who hasn't
kissed his Turkish fat arse.



Just perhaps someone should ask this clown and his battalion of suck-hole
Moderators and Sponsors what they have against writing the truth. And the
bloke that wrote the first glowing report was upgraded to Moderator, for
all his trouble.



Just remember Son, always cloud the truth with bull**** and you will go far.



As for these cables of monolithic proportions and cost here's a price list
for anyone busting to get there grubby little hands on them.



It was reported that these demo leads would be for sale after the trial,
regardless of damage and without written instructions. Of course they would
be cheaper and there would not be a postal charge [we think] but that's
possibly subject to further negotiation and you don't tell anyone else what
you paid.

After all, not everyone can say they bought a busted set of leads from
someone in Turkey, now can they?



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Interconnects (appr. 90-100 cm. each):

Shaman SE (with Eichmann Silver Bullets) 349.- USD. 546 aust $
Phrygian SE ....................................... 299.- USD. 468
aust $
Moonshadow....................................... 449.- USD. 703 aust
$

Speaker Cable: Moonstar SC. 3meters. (890.- USD. 3 meters stereo pair) 1394
aust $

__________________________________________________ __________________________________



That was followed by this, just to make you feel better,



QUOTE,



In the context of high postal charges to Turkey from Australia, I prefer to
offer a substantial reduction in prices of these cables for the prospective
buyers. Interested parties could contact(mail) me or David Ward for the
details. UNQUOTE



At those high prices postage should be free, So he's not only getting at
you with his high prices, providing they come with instructions, he's also
getting a second bite with postal charges, and anything over twenty bucks
is a rip off



Anyway here's the link, unless they have it hidden behind closed doors
for Knob heads with more money then brains, to read and nod there little
heads in agreement.



http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/showthread.php?t=12364





This little Dog is quite happy with his home made **** from WES
Components, thanks very much.

..

Thanks also go to the other people that assisted me with this little
monument to the truth. Something which KEITH W and his little band of
Pixies have a lot of trouble excepting. So while they float away on their
little ego clouds, the rest of us will just have to make do with the TRUTH




Bassett