"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Eeyore" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

I agree the recession is very likely hitting those who might have been
considering a little 'low end' punt on eBay

OK, so what would you go for ?


I have been buying lenses on eBay lately and, believe me, there's no
shortage of bidders on the 'choice' secondhand items items, but the audio
stuff I looked up recently was going for peanuts with a lot of items
sliding off the table without a single bid, as I said before.


There's a lot of 'items' in there...

:-)

In article 4a2119de.791588828@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
For me and audio it wasn't a matter of keeping up with the Joneses - I
was simply an early adopter. I was cured of that in a big way by DAB -
shelled out a fortune for an Arcam radio which now lives in a
cupboard.

Assuming you got DAB early on you didn't like it at the higher bitrates?

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*If PROGRESS is for advancement, what does that make CONGRESS mean?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
(Maybe I should start another little 'DIY project' and publicise it here
as per - it'd give Plowie summat to flick snot at, if nowt else! :-)

How many variations can you find on SET valve amps driving horn loaded
full range drivers, Keithie baby?

But since they're all perfect - according to you - why would you want to
build more? New milkman got some decent ears for once?

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*Do paediatricians play miniature golf on Wednesdays?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:28:54 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article 4a2119de.791588828@localhost,
Don Pearce wrote:
For me and audio it wasn't a matter of keeping up with the Joneses - I
was simply an early adopter. I was cured of that in a big way by DAB -
shelled out a fortune for an Arcam radio which now lives in a
cupboard.

Assuming you got DAB early on you didn't like it at the higher bitrates?

I got DAB very early and DID like it at the higher bit rates. It was
as the bit rates started to slide away that I fell out of love. Now I
am much happier with what I get off Freeview (S/PDIF connection into
the amplifier rather than using the box to decode).

d

Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote

Probably because secondhand audio is generally vastly outperformed by more
recent and inexpensive gear.

I don't believe it is, once you get past the lowest quality (toy) items and
'classic' stuff (old Tannoys, for example) still makes good money.

Old Tannoys stink ! If that's your idea of 'good sound' you must have stopped
auditioning decent hi-fi over 30 years ago.

Graham

"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet generally?

These days I do most of my posting to HTML-based forums.
They seem to be pretty active. The market for audio
forums has become very fragmented.

No idea, I've never looked into an audio forum only
photography forums, but there's *gazillions* of them, so
I'm sure you're right.

I don't like forums. I don't like the 'clicky' nature of
most of the ones I've seen (photography) and the
*hideous* 'sucky up' posts from people trying to get
'in'! (Especially when it's sucky up posts from Brits and
Yanks trying to get in with raggedy-arsed, newly-bold
Eurotrash!)

I don't get this. All I did to get into the forums I'm on is type in my
email address and a password that I made up.

I also don't like those stupid little boxes you have to type in!

I guess I'm a bit more flexible than that.

And I *definitely* don't like being moderated - I got
kicked out of the last crappy (commercially based) forum
I was in by a Hungarian (would you believe?) for calling
an Eyetie a 'prick'!

I can believe that.

It's true that most HTML forums moderate retroactively, and do expect some
minimum level of adult behavior. I can see how that would be difficult for
you, Keith.

"Eeyore" wrote in
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Keith G wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote
"Keith G" wrote

But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet
generally?

These days I do most of my posting to HTML-based
forums. They seem to be pretty active. The market for
audio forums has become very fragmented.


No idea, I've never looked into an audio forum only
photography forums, but there's *gazillions* of them, so
I'm sure you're right.

I don't like forums.

Neither do I generally. Most are full of slow to load
gimmicky graphics

Umm, you mean the ads?

and they don't support threads as in Usenet, so it's difficult to tell
who's replying to whom.

Agreed.

Usenet is a far better medium IMHO.

I suspect that the need to configure a newgroup reader is a major technical
hurdle for some.

For me and audio it wasn't a matter of keeping up with the Joneses - I
was simply an early adopter. I was cured of that in a big way by DAB -
shelled out a fortune for an Arcam radio which now lives in a
cupboard.


If its any consolation you weren't the only one..

I got rid of mine, swapped it for a laptop..

Still the Germans do MP2 transmission rather well on satellite
MP2 audio at 334 K Bits..

And 5:1 surround at 441K IIRC...


so the interest I have for advancing is in recording techniques -
plus of course


practicing the instruments (of which I have bought a
few over the last year).


Now thats a good waste of time)...
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Oh yes!

d

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Tony Sayer

"Eeyore" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote

Probably because secondhand audio is generally vastly outperformed by
more
recent and inexpensive gear.

I don't believe it is, once you get past the lowest quality (toy) items
and
'classic' stuff (old Tannoys, for example) still makes good money.

Old Tannoys stink !


They do?


If that's your idea of 'good sound' you must have stopped
auditioning decent hi-fi over 30 years ago.


Don't beat me up - I ain't the one buying them!

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


But is it 'audio', Usenet or the the Internet generally?

These days I do most of my posting to HTML-based forums.
They seem to be pretty active. The market for audio
forums has become very fragmented.

No idea, I've never looked into an audio forum only
photography forums, but there's *gazillions* of them, so
I'm sure you're right.

I don't like forums. I don't like the 'clicky' nature of
most of the ones I've seen (photography) and the
*hideous* 'sucky up' posts from people trying to get
'in'! (Especially when it's sucky up posts from Brits and
Yanks trying to get in with raggedy-arsed, newly-bold
Eurotrash!)

I don't get this. All I did to get into the forums I'm on is type in my
email address and a password that I made up.


Oh, well done! You'll be on *joined up* writing soon....

(WTF has his *login* got to do with anything???)



I also don't like those stupid little boxes you have to type in!

I guess I'm a bit more flexible than that.


I'm happy that you're happy with them....



And I *definitely* don't like being moderated - I got
kicked out of the last crappy (commercially based) forum
I was in by a Hungarian (would you believe?) for calling
an Eyetie a 'prick'!

I can believe that.


He was a prick; almost certainly still *is* a prick and he guessed correctly
(from experience, I guess) that his 'in crowd' status would protect him from
getting his *prickiness* hauled all over the forum - and subsequent, direct
emails from other forum members confirmed I'm not the only one who thinks
he's a prick.

Does that represent a problem to you?



It's true that most HTML forums moderate retroactively, and do expect some
minimum level of adult behavior. I can see how that would be difficult for
you, Keith.


Good, coming from you....