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Old October 30th 03, 05:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stephen
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"Richard Wall" wrote in message
...
Dear Simon
Is it legal, in the UK ? No but you are unlikely to be prosecuted for
copying your own albums for personal use

snip

I can remember some years ago the music industry attempted to prosecute
somebody in court for recording vinyl albums they'd brought onto cassette
tape for listening to while in their car. The music industry was arguing
that you had to but the music in two different formats if you wanted to
listen to vinyl at home but tape in the car. What they were effectively
saying was you had to pay twice for the same music. This was despite the
fact that you pay a tax for royalties when purchasing blank cassette tapes
and these days the same tax for the blank CD-R's specifically marked for
audio copying.
I watched this case with interest and the judgement went against the music
industry. It was decreed that you were indeed allowed to copy music for your
own use if you had paid and still held the original copy. This was stated at
the time that the payment of the tax on the cassette tape had in fact paid
the royalties for the additional copy. If you ever disposed of the original
copy then you're obliged to also destroy or dispose of the copies with the
original copy.

Stephen


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Old October 30th 03, 05:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Stephen" wrote in message
...

"Richard Wall" wrote in message
...
Dear Simon
Is it legal, in the UK ? No but you are unlikely to be prosecuted for
copying your own albums for personal use

snip

I can remember some years ago the music industry attempted to prosecute
somebody in court for recording vinyl albums they'd brought onto cassette
tape for listening to while in their car. The music industry was arguing
that you had to but the music in two different formats if you wanted to
listen to vinyl at home but tape in the car. What they were effectively
saying was you had to pay twice for the same music. This was despite the
fact that you pay a tax for royalties when purchasing blank cassette tapes
and these days the same tax for the blank CD-R's specifically marked for
audio copying.
I watched this case with interest and the judgement went against the music
industry. It was decreed that you were indeed allowed to copy music for

your
own use if you had paid and still held the original copy. This was stated

at
the time that the payment of the tax on the cassette tape had in fact paid
the royalties for the additional copy. If you ever disposed of the

original
copy then you're obliged to also destroy or dispose of the copies with the
original copy.



Royalties are the root of all evil in the MI and are not to be confused with
Copyright issues which are a totally different thing.....





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Old October 30th 03, 05:48 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Default Your Music On CD


"Stephen" wrote in message
...

"Richard Wall" wrote in message
...
Dear Simon
Is it legal, in the UK ? No but you are unlikely to be prosecuted for
copying your own albums for personal use

snip

I can remember some years ago the music industry attempted to prosecute
somebody in court for recording vinyl albums they'd brought onto cassette
tape for listening to while in their car. The music industry was arguing
that you had to but the music in two different formats if you wanted to
listen to vinyl at home but tape in the car. What they were effectively
saying was you had to pay twice for the same music. This was despite the
fact that you pay a tax for royalties when purchasing blank cassette tapes
and these days the same tax for the blank CD-R's specifically marked for
audio copying.
I watched this case with interest and the judgement went against the music
industry. It was decreed that you were indeed allowed to copy music for

your
own use if you had paid and still held the original copy. This was stated

at
the time that the payment of the tax on the cassette tape had in fact paid
the royalties for the additional copy. If you ever disposed of the

original
copy then you're obliged to also destroy or dispose of the copies with the
original copy.



Royalties are the root of all evil in the MI and are not to be confused with
Copyright issues which are a totally different thing.....





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Old October 30th 03, 05:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim H
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more from the 'Stephen school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

Covers for any other type of media, such as DVD's, are still
on the site.


Crazy! So it's an infringement DVD backups to have nice covers but not
vinyl!

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Jim H jh
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Old October 30th 03, 05:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim H
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Default Your Music On CD

more from the 'Stephen school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:

Covers for any other type of media, such as DVD's, are still
on the site.


Crazy! So it's an infringement DVD backups to have nice covers but not
vinyl!

--
Jim H jh
@333
.org
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Old October 30th 03, 06:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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In article ,
Stephen wrote:
Don't bother with the link as the covers for audio CD's were pulled from
the site due to the music industry using it's usual big brother tactics
threatening the site with massive legal action.


Do you allow perfect starngers to use your property without permission? Do
you work for free?

No? Why expect others to?

--
*Even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn now and again *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old October 30th 03, 06:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Default Your Music On CD

In article ,
Stephen wrote:
Don't bother with the link as the covers for audio CD's were pulled from
the site due to the music industry using it's usual big brother tactics
threatening the site with massive legal action.


Do you allow perfect starngers to use your property without permission? Do
you work for free?

No? Why expect others to?

--
*Even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn now and again *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
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Old October 30th 03, 09:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stimpy
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Stephen wrote:

If the quality of the cd sleeve is that important, just go to
www.cdcovers.cc and download a scan of the original CD sleeve & CD
label, then your copied CD will look just like the real thing

Don't bother with the link as the covers for audio CD's were pulled
from the site due to the music industry using it's usual big brother
tactics threatening the site with massive legal action.


It went back up a few weeks later :-) They now link to a series of 'third
party' sites which actually hold the cd sleeves - it's as good as it ever
was but just needs one extra click to access a sleeve



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Old October 30th 03, 09:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stimpy
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Default Your Music On CD

Stephen wrote:

If the quality of the cd sleeve is that important, just go to
www.cdcovers.cc and download a scan of the original CD sleeve & CD
label, then your copied CD will look just like the real thing

Don't bother with the link as the covers for audio CD's were pulled
from the site due to the music industry using it's usual big brother
tactics threatening the site with massive legal action.


It went back up a few weeks later :-) They now link to a series of 'third
party' sites which actually hold the cd sleeves - it's as good as it ever
was but just needs one extra click to access a sleeve



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Old November 4th 03, 08:58 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Simon Clark
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"Clark" wrote in message ...
I've used them a couple of times and have no complaints. My first
order was back in May and was just a single vinyl album. I think I
posted it on the Monday and got the CD back on the Thursday or Friday!
CD case looked professional with full track listing on the reverse. CD
quality was amazing. You can still hear a bit of hiss when the volumne
is turned right up for a quiet section of a track but as I've said -
no worse than before.

I was so impressed I ended up sending about 15 albums/cassettes in the
end. They obviously do some sort of cleaning or noise reduction before
burning onto CD because there's hardly any scratches or jumps.

Dave G


Well I filled in Your Music on CD's
(www.indicativeit.co.uk/yourmusiconcd) online order form last Thursday
morning and I got my music back this morning!

I decided to send my albums and cassettes to them by courier for piece
of mind but also to allay worries that the Postal Strike might delay
things. I requested that they sent my music and new CDs back to me by
special delivery (for which I expected to pay extra) but I got an
email from them saying that they would do this for me at no charge
because of the Postal Strike. I thought that was kind of them.

The new CDs are fine. It's great to hear my old music again - no
rewinding - easy track selection, and the sound quality is great - as
near as damm it - CD quality.

Definately use them again. I think I might get all my dad's old albums
transferred onto CD for his Christmas present!

Thanks to all those who replied

Simon
 




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