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Old July 16th 09, 06:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
TonyL
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I have a Yoga DM-330B dynamic mic

Questions:
I can't find any info on it....is it any good ? I know it is horses for
courses with mics. What might this one be useful for ?

Can anyone point me to a spec ?

For some reason, XLR shield (pin1) is internally connected to one of the
outputs. The only way I can get reasonable noise/hum levels is to disconnect
the shield connection in the mic.cable XLR connector at the mic. end. Why
have they done this to what I thought should be a balanced output ?

To avoid having to use a modified mic. cable would it be a good idea to open
it up and remove this internal connection ?








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Old July 16th 09, 06:18 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
TonyL wrote:
For some reason, XLR shield (pin1) is internally connected to one of the
outputs. The only way I can get reasonable noise/hum levels is to
disconnect the shield connection in the mic.cable XLR connector at the
mic. end. Why have they done this to what I thought should be a
balanced output ?


Probably been used with an unbalanced input - this might improve handling
noise.

To avoid having to use a modified mic. cable would it be a good idea to
open it up and remove this internal connection ?


Yes.

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Old July 16th 09, 08:31 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

To avoid having to use a modified mic. cable would it be a good idea
to open it up and remove this internal connection ?


Yes.


That worked, thanks.


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Old July 17th 09, 02:44 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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"TonyL"

I have a Yoga DM-330B dynamic mic


** Chinese junk.

Suit a jerk off like you just fine.


Questions:
I can't find any info on it....is it any good ? I know it is horses for
courses with mics. What might this one be useful for ?


** Karaoke is the main app.


Can anyone point me to a spec ?


** ROTFL !!

For some reason, XLR shield (pin1) is internally connected to one of the
outputs.



** The Chinese like to do that - seen it done with fake Shure Beta 58As.


The only way I can get reasonable noise/hum levels is to disconnect the
shield connection in the mic.cable XLR connector at the mic. end.


** Shows you must be using a pile of **** for a pre-amp.


Why have they done this..


** Ahhhh - is ancient Chinese recipe .....

ROTFL !!


...... Phil




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Old July 17th 09, 03:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
TonyL
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Default Dynamic mic questions

Spit and bear breath....right, he he.

I'm not particularly impressed with vocal performance with this mic. For
tests I'm listening via a Roland UA-25 USB Audio capture unit switched to
Direct Monitor mode and driving a pair of Sennheiser HD 280 cans. I know
that dynamic mics aren't known for their HF response but I was expecting
more crispness. At this time I don't have any gear to do proper measurements
so I'm reliant on my own ears...

I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.

Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually a lot of these sort of mics are actually quite good and
definitely robust, they need to be after all that spit and bear
breath gets into them.
Brian



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Old July 17th 09, 04:23 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Dynamic mic questions

In article ,
TonyL wrote:
I'm not particularly impressed with vocal performance with this mic. For
tests I'm listening via a Roland UA-25 USB Audio capture unit switched
to Direct Monitor mode and driving a pair of Sennheiser HD 280 cans. I
know that dynamic mics aren't known for their HF response but I was
expecting more crispness. At this time I don't have any gear to do
proper measurements so I'm reliant on my own ears...


I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.


The SM 58 is one of the most over-rated mics ever. Its only virtues are
robustness and reasonable noise cancellation. Certainly not sound quality.

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Old July 17th 09, 06:31 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
TonyL
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Default Dynamic mic questions

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.


The SM 58 is one of the most over-rated mics ever. Its only virtues
are robustness and reasonable noise cancellation. Certainly not sound
quality.


I know it is not the most sensitive mic and doesn't do much above 13 kHz or
so. Could you clarify what else it is about the SM 58 that you dislike ? I'm
hoping to use it for vocals and maybe acoustic guitar.


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Old July 18th 09, 12:11 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Phil Allison[_2_]
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"Dave Plowman (Nutcase) "

I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.


The SM 58 is one of the most over-rated mics ever.



** On the contrary - the Shure SM58's good reputation for live vocal work
is well justified. Since the late 1960s, it has LITERALLY set the standard
for ALL vocal mics in both appearance and sound quality to follow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shure_SM58


Its only virtues are robustness and reasonable noise cancellation.



** You are allowed to have that opinion

- but it is the view of a ****ing idiot.


Certainly not sound quality.



** That so many folk PREFER the results given by the SM58 and many other
mics that are essentialy clones of it, proves there is nothing wrong with
the design.

Cerainly, there are some Shure mic haters out there - just like there are
rabid racists, religious bigots and all kinds of ratbags and mental
defectives who try to foist their mad opionion on others.

Dave Plowman is a first class example of the above.



...... Phil




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Old July 20th 09, 01:04 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Dynamic mic questions



TonyL wrote:

I've ordered a SM 58, will be interesting to compare.


Oh dear !

The SM58 is the most over-hyped mic in history and is certainly not an accurate
mic. In fact its frequency response looks like a cross-section of the Rocky
Mountains. A classic example of the power of marketing ( and recommendation by
deaf sound engineers ) over science.

Just about any European brand mic will better it.

Graham


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