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Old October 13th 09, 12:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David Looser
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"Don Pearce" wrote


According to the FAQs, it resamples. It only supports 48kHz.

As it is my clear understanding that it doesn't resample, I've just looked
at the FAQ. I cannot find anything there about it resampling.


Sorry, it is there I clearly didn't look hard enough before.

I will check
again just to make sure.

I'm still not sure that the FAQ is correct. So I will check.

The other Maplin product that I use, a PCI sound card with optical I/O
*definitely* does not resample.

David.




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Old October 13th 09, 12:53 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:45:52 +0100, "David Looser"
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Don Pearce" wrote


According to the FAQs, it resamples. It only supports 48kHz.

As it is my clear understanding that it doesn't resample, I've just looked
at the FAQ. I cannot find anything there about it resampling.


Sorry, it is there I clearly didn't look hard enough before.

I will check
again just to make sure.

I'm still not sure that the FAQ is correct. So I will check.

The other Maplin product that I use, a PCI sound card with optical I/O
*definitely* does not resample.

David.




I think in general I would skip these ultra-cheap ones, they all seem
pretty limited. I would be looking at the M-Audio Transit, which comes
in at about £50. Excellent pedigree.

d
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Old October 13th 09, 01:41 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , David Looser
wrote:
"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Don Pearce" wrote


According to the FAQs, it resamples. It only supports 48kHz.

As it is my clear understanding that it doesn't resample, I've just
looked at the FAQ. I cannot find anything there about it resampling.


Sorry, it is there I clearly didn't look hard enough before.


Well, I also just looked. At first I used NetSurf on a RO box and found no
sign in ther FAQs of the reply that it resampled.

I then used FifeFox on a Xubuntu box, and saw it as the first answer. Yet I
am quite sure that Q and A were *not* displayed on the first occasion. So I
wonder if the page isn't always choosing the same list of Q and As to
display.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old October 13th 09, 01:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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In article , Don Pearce
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:39:58 +0100, "David Looser"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote


According to the FAQs, it resamples. It only supports 48kHz.

As it is my clear understanding that it doesn't resample, I've just
looked at the FAQ. I cannot find anything there about it resampling.
I will check again just to make sure.

David.


The Maplin one, yes? Very first question in the FAQ.


I am wondering if the answer is actually correct TBH. It does seem weird to
me that a USB-to-optical spdif should enforce resampling. But then I have
increasingly formed the impression that the people who build computer gear
are bonkers and haven't a clue about audio.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old October 13th 09, 01:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Don Pearce
wrote:


I think in general I would skip these ultra-cheap ones, they all seem
pretty limited. I would be looking at the M-Audio Transit, which comes
in at about £50. Excellent pedigree.


Again, do you know if that provides both analogue and optical outputs
*without* resampling, and works with Linux?

Slainte,

Jim

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Old October 13th 09, 04:17 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David Looser
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote

I then used FifeFox on a Xubuntu box, and saw it as the first answer. Yet
I
am quite sure that Q and A were *not* displayed on the first occasion. So
I
wonder if the page isn't always choosing the same list of Q and As to
display.

Maybe. I had a pretty good look first time and did not see it. And when I
*did* see it the second time I visited that page, it was *not* the first
answer, about third I think.

David.


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Old October 13th 09, 04:21 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
David Looser
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"Don Pearce" wrote


I think in general I would skip these ultra-cheap ones, they all seem
pretty limited. I would be looking at the M-Audio Transit, which comes
in at about £50. Excellent pedigree.


My experience of this "ultra-cheap" one is that it works exceedingly well.
IMO it beats more expensive offerings hands down, simply because it is so
"limited". It converts USB audio to SPDIF (I ignore the analogue output). -
that's it. No fancy bells and whistles. If that's what you want to do I fail
to see what you would get with a more expensive offering that you don't get
with this.

David.



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Old October 13th 09, 04:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:02:00 +0100, Jim Lesurf
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Has anyone reading this tried, say, the 'Firestone' USB dac that has an
optical output?


I have an Edirol UA-25, which works under Ubuntu without any problems.
This has been superceded by the 'new and improved' UA-25EX. See, for
example.:
http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardwa...terface--56571

The only problem I have had with the UA-25 was a earth loop when using
the unbalanced analogue output. (The EX model apparently has a ground
lift to help overcome this.)

The analogue output and input seems to have very few undesirable
artifacts from the simple testing I have done. It is switchable
between 44.1, 48 and 96 ksps.

There are a number of similar products from other manufacturers, also
targeted at the pro and semi-pro recording market.

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Old October 13th 09, 04:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:45:10 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , Don Pearce
wrote:


I think in general I would skip these ultra-cheap ones, they all seem
pretty limited. I would be looking at the M-Audio Transit, which comes
in at about £50. Excellent pedigree.


Again, do you know if that provides both analogue and optical outputs
*without* resampling, and works with Linux?

Slainte,

Jim


Yes to the first two (M-Audio is a serious professional audio
company), and sort of for the last. There are web sites out there with
details of how to bolt it onto a Linux machine, but M-Audio don't
write drivers for it.

d
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Old October 13th 09, 05:14 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , David Looser
wrote:
"Jim Lesurf" wrote

I then used FifeFox on a Xubuntu box, and saw it as the first answer.
Yet I am quite sure that Q and A were *not* displayed on the first
occasion. So I wonder if the page isn't always choosing the same list
of Q and As to display.

Maybe. I had a pretty good look first time and did not see it. And when
I *did* see it the second time I visited that page, it was *not* the
first answer, about third I think.


It was certainly first when I saw it with FireFox. So I guess the list is
generated on the fly each time, so the items included might vary for some
unknown (to us) reasons.

Slainte,

Jim

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