On 11/01/2010 12:59, Arny Krueger wrote:
"Iain wrote in message

"Keith wrote in message
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On 10/01/2010 21:12, Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith wrote in
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Normally, I don't solicit (or usually get) comments
and/or criticisms when I post little 'fun' recordings
and vinyl transcription clips but this time I'm
curious - anybody got any comments on this one:
http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


Is it *too* mellow?

Yes.

Sounded better with a broad dip around 100 Hz, and a
linear 15 dB rise starting at 1 KHz and ending at 15
KHz.

OK.

No. Not OK.

An EQ slope starting at 1kHz and rising to +15dB
at 15kHz makes the track glassy and unnatural.

I'm buying some of that, but notice that I only said it sounded better than
the origional which is excessively mellow. If someone wants me to really fix
something, they can pay my going rate. What I did for free was provide some
guidance.



For free? Guidance?

Streuth, I only asked for an *opinion* - for free!

I already know what *I* think of both the original and EQ'd versions,
needless to say, but I was/am still interested in the opinions of others
here (includes Poochie's milkman)...

(But I ain't paying any damn *consultation fees*..!!! :-))

On 11/01/2010 14:01, Keith G wrote:

Righty ho, I have had a bit of a to-do with the new computer swap over
and the 'Georgia' links might have gone missing for a while - these
should work, if I haven't cocked it all up:

Original:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


EQ'd as per *free* recommendation by Arny!:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So let's be having the 'overly mellow?' vs. 'glassy?' votes then!

:-)

Keith G wrote:
On 11/01/2010 14:01, Keith G wrote:

Righty ho, I have had a bit of a to-do with the new computer swap over
and the 'Georgia' links might have gone missing for a while - these
should work, if I haven't cocked it all up:

Original:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


EQ'd as per *free* recommendation by Arny!:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So let's be having the 'overly mellow?' vs. 'glassy?' votes then!

:-)



OK, no takers (no surprise)....

Well, I prefer the original version - the brighter version sounds a
little too 'paper and comb/Kazoo' in places for my liking but I can see
why some people might prefer it.

(I don't think Arny did too bad a job on it - for *free*!! ;-)

Interestingly though, for 'too mellow' on the original version, there
are a pair of the supposedly 'overbright' C1000s in the mix!!

Maybe another one soon...??

"Keith G" wrote in message
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On 11/01/2010 14:01, Keith G wrote:

Righty ho, I have had a bit of a to-do with the new computer swap over and
the 'Georgia' links might have gone missing for a while - these should
work, if I haven't cocked it all up:

Original:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


EQ'd as per *free* recommendation by Arny!:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So let's be having the 'overly mellow?' vs. 'glassy?' votes then!

:-)

It would be interesting to know what the performers think.

Iain Churches wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message
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On 11/01/2010 14:01, Keith G wrote:

Righty ho, I have had a bit of a to-do with the new computer swap over and
the 'Georgia' links might have gone missing for a while - these should
work, if I haven't cocked it all up:

Original:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


EQ'd as per *free* recommendation by Arny!:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So let's be having the 'overly mellow?' vs. 'glassy?' votes then!

:-)

It would be interesting to know what the performers think.


OK, the clarinettist prefers the original and thinks the second one is
too bright, but then somewhat controversially says the instruments sound
more real in the EQ'd version!!

(Is what I was told..??)

How about the saxophonist..??

:-)

"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Keith G" wrote in message
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On 11/01/2010 14:01, Keith G wrote:

Righty ho, I have had a bit of a to-do with the new
computer swap over and the 'Georgia' links might have
gone missing for a while - these should work, if I
haven't cocked it all up: Original:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


EQ'd as per *free* recommendation by Arny!:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So let's be having the 'overly mellow?' vs. 'glassy?'
votes then! :-)

It would be interesting to know what the performers think.

Intersting but irrelevant. Performers are generally too close to their
instruments to hear the same thing as their audience hears.

That's one of the neat things about both being a recordist and/or live
sound tech - the instruments keep playing when you walk away from them and
try to listen to what the audience hears.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Keith G" wrote in message
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On 11/01/2010 14:01, Keith G wrote:

Righty ho, I have had a bit of a to-do with the new
computer swap over and the 'Georgia' links might have
gone missing for a while - these should work, if I
haven't cocked it all up: Original:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


EQ'd as per *free* recommendation by Arny!:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So let's be having the 'overly mellow?' vs. 'glassy?'
votes then! :-)

It would be interesting to know what the performers think.

Intersting but irrelevant. Performers are generally too close to their
instruments to hear the same thing as their audience hears.

In this case the opinion of the performers is of the greatest relevance,
as Keith's wife played the clarinet, and I played five of the other tracks
including the tenor saxophone solo on this title. Keith made an admirable
job of recording the clart in the UK to a rough mix of the backing track
which I sent to him, and I assembled the whole thing, synchronised the
tracks and mixed it

I am tickled pink by the fact that the tenor saxophone (on a track which
you pronounced as too mellow, was recorded with a mic, which,
although you had never heard it, you stated as too bright:-)

If Keith had entitled the thread "Is this too bright?" I am sure your
reply would still have been "Yes". Damning with faint praise seems
to be one of the few things you are good at.

Well done, Arny:-)

Iain Churches wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message

"Keith G" wrote in message
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On 11/01/2010 14:01, Keith G wrote:

Righty ho, I have had a bit of a to-do with the new
computer swap over and the 'Georgia' links might have
gone missing for a while - these should work, if I
haven't cocked it all up: Original:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaM.mp3


EQ'd as per *free* recommendation by Arny!:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/showntell/GeorgiaMEQ.mp3


So let's be having the 'overly mellow?' vs. 'glassy?'
votes then! :-)
It would be interesting to know what the performers think.
Intersting but irrelevant. Performers are generally too close to their
instruments to hear the same thing as their audience hears.

In this case the opinion of the performers is of the greatest relevance,
as Keith's wife played the clarinet,


OK Iain, a technicality - Moira and I are 'partners' (of summat like 15
years standing, I suspect)!



and I played five of the other tracks
including the tenor saxophone solo on this title.


:-)



Keith made an admirable
job of recording the clart in the UK to a rough mix of the backing track
which I sent to him, and I assembled the whole thing, synchronised the
tracks and mixed it


An international *Internet Ensemble*...!!

Perhaps we could rope Laurence in on the trombone for the next one? Who
else is there who can hold a tune on an instrument?

:-)



I am tickled pink by the fact that the tenor saxophone (on a track which
you pronounced as too mellow, was recorded with a mic, which,
although you had never heard it, you stated as too bright:-)



I said as much elsewhere - goes to show what utter claptrap is paraded
as 'expertise' before this group, doesn't it?




If Keith had entitled the thread "Is this too bright?" I am sure your
reply would still have been "Yes". Damning with faint praise seems
to be one of the few things you are good at.

Well done, Arny:-)



Yep. Ole boy done good - as *usual*....