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Old January 27th 10, 11:30 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
DAB sounds worse than FM[_2_]
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Default House of Lords inquiry into digital radio switchover

The following is a copy of a newsletter I've just sent from my website,
which people who aren't happy with the Government's plans to switch off FM
stations at some point over the next decade might be interested in:


The House of Lords Communications Select Committee is holding an inquiry
into the digital switchover of TV and radio. Written submissions must arrive
at the House of Lords by 1st February, which is this coming Monday.

This inquiry might be the last chance people get to express their views on
the Government's plans for digital radio switchover before the Digital
Economy Bill is passed. The only other chance might be when the Bill goes
back to the House of Commons, but I feel that this is the best chance people
will get to actually have their views listened to.

On the radio side, the inquiry is asking for people's views on "the
outstanding technical issues, including the appropriateness of DAB as the
digital radio standard" and, less interestingly, "the current state of the
Government's plans for switchover to digital radio".

In addition to sending your views on the DAB vs DAB+ issue, though, I've yet
to see the Government or the BBC provide a single piece of evidence to show
that the public wants FM stations to be switched off, whereas there's
evidence to suggest that the public is perfectly happy with FM. For example,
an Ofcom market research survey conducted last year showed that 91% of
people are "satisfied" with the choice of radio stations available at the
moment, and only 3% are "dissatisfied". Therefore there's negligible demand
for the main feature that DAB has to offer. Also, presenters on BBC radio
programmes said that people were "almost unanimous" in their opposition to
the plans to switch off FM stations when the 2015 switchover date was
announced last summer.

I think it stands to reason that the public doesn't want FM stations to be
switched off, so I think it would be perfectly justifiable for people who're
opposed to that happening to send their views to this inquiry as well,
especially considering that the public has been completely ignored up to now
on this matter by the BBC and the Government.

A press release about the inquiry, including instructions about where to
send submissions to, can be found he

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/DigS.doc

The press release says that submissions should be sent by post, but if you
don't want to post anything or you don't feel it would get there in time, I
think it would be worth sending your views via email to the Select
Committee's email address:



Thanks.


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www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - digital radio news & info

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Old January 28th 10, 08:26 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Brian Gaff
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Default House of Lords inquiry into digital radio switchover

So why have not the various networks been promoting the enquiry. Seems a bit
late in the day now?
I feel though that they will have a fight on their hands from the commercial
interests if they want to turn off fm. I know for a fact a number of larger
and smaller players in the commercial radio side have sent submissions to
this enquiry saying that how can they borrow the money to keep their
systems going if they have no proven model finance wise which would be the
case if the FM rug were pulled out leaving an inadequate DAB system with a
low listner base. A more realistic date might be 2025. Even hen, what other
medium can tail the signal off gracefully and not just either cut out or go
into boiling mud territory.
They believe, I think that the current dab needs to be sorted out and
properly funded and all the stuff we have talked about here, before its
even feasible to think about just allowing fm to be used by local stations.
The problem is that many commercial systems of the small variety, would
fall between the cracks in the proposed new order, and the bigger ones would
lose coverage.

Brian

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"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
The following is a copy of a newsletter I've just sent from my website,
which people who aren't happy with the Government's plans to switch off FM
stations at some point over the next decade might be interested in:


The House of Lords Communications Select Committee is holding an inquiry
into the digital switchover of TV and radio. Written submissions must
arrive at the House of Lords by 1st February, which is this coming Monday.

This inquiry might be the last chance people get to express their views on
the Government's plans for digital radio switchover before the Digital
Economy Bill is passed. The only other chance might be when the Bill goes
back to the House of Commons, but I feel that this is the best chance
people will get to actually have their views listened to.

On the radio side, the inquiry is asking for people's views on "the
outstanding technical issues, including the appropriateness of DAB as the
digital radio standard" and, less interestingly, "the current state of the
Government's plans for switchover to digital radio".

In addition to sending your views on the DAB vs DAB+ issue, though, I've
yet to see the Government or the BBC provide a single piece of evidence to
show that the public wants FM stations to be switched off, whereas there's
evidence to suggest that the public is perfectly happy with FM. For
example, an Ofcom market research survey conducted last year showed that
91% of people are "satisfied" with the choice of radio stations available
at the moment, and only 3% are "dissatisfied". Therefore there's
negligible demand for the main feature that DAB has to offer. Also,
presenters on BBC radio programmes said that people were "almost
unanimous" in their opposition to the plans to switch off FM stations when
the 2015 switchover date was announced last summer.

I think it stands to reason that the public doesn't want FM stations to be
switched off, so I think it would be perfectly justifiable for people
who're opposed to that happening to send their views to this inquiry as
well, especially considering that the public has been completely ignored
up to now on this matter by the BBC and the Government.

A press release about the inquiry, including instructions about where to
send submissions to, can be found he

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/DigS.doc

The press release says that submissions should be sent by post, but if you
don't want to post anything or you don't feel it would get there in time,
I think it would be worth sending your views via email to the Select
Committee's email address:



Thanks.


--
Steve -
www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - digital radio news & info

Check that I haven't accused James "pathological liar" Cridland of being
biased towards DAB and biased against Internet radio: Tick
Check that I've deleted all racist and/or homophobic language: Tick
Check that there are no funeral magazines and/or addresses of senior
members of the DAB industry included: Tick
Check that I've observed Sean "My Personal Obsessive Stalker" Inglis's
(Usenet username: seani) "How Steve Must Behave on Usenet Rulebook
(Totally Inapplicable to Other Users Edition)": Tick



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Old January 28th 10, 08:50 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
David Kennedy
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Default House of Lords inquiry into digital radio switchover

Brian Gaff wrote:
So why have not the various networks been promoting the enquiry. Seems a bit
late in the day now?
I feel though that they will have a fight on their hands from the commercial
interests if they want to turn off fm. I know for a fact a number of larger
and smaller players in the commercial radio side have sent submissions to
this enquiry saying that how can they borrow the money to keep their
systems going if they have no proven model finance wise which would be the
case if the FM rug were pulled out leaving an inadequate DAB system with a
low listner base. A more realistic date might be 2025. Even hen, what other
medium can tail the signal off gracefully and not just either cut out or go
into boiling mud territory.
They believe, I think that the current dab needs to be sorted out and
properly funded and all the stuff we have talked about here, before its
even feasible to think about just allowing fm to be used by local stations.
The problem is that many commercial systems of the small variety, would
fall between the cracks in the proposed new order, and the bigger ones would
lose coverage.

Brian


Leaving aside the quality issue for a moment, I thought we were supposed
to be going green(er) these days? This is some useless initiative that
the Government is trying to drive through which will mean that - as with
mobile phones - 99% of the population have coverage and 100% of the
population will have to land fill their existing radio equipment.
Speaking as someone who - even in 2010 - cannot get a reliable signal on
Channel 5 and who [after switch-over] will still only be able to get the
main channels via an ariel I have little confidence in the coverage
predictions although I can get Radio 4...

Just how many existing radios will be consigned to land fill? I imagine
though that this initiative will restart the Chinese economy quite nicely.

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Old February 9th 10, 03:15 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
bcoombes
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Default House of Lords inquiry into digital radio switchover

David Kennedy wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
So why have not the various networks been promoting the enquiry. Seems
a bit
late in the day now?
I feel though that they will have a fight on their hands from the
commercial
interests if they want to turn off fm. I know for a fact a number of
larger
and smaller players in the commercial radio side have sent
submissions to
this enquiry saying that how can they borrow the money to keep their
systems going if they have no proven model finance wise which would
be the
case if the FM rug were pulled out leaving an inadequate DAB system
with a
low listner base. A more realistic date might be 2025. Even hen, what
other
medium can tail the signal off gracefully and not just either cut out
or go
into boiling mud territory.
They believe, I think that the current dab needs to be sorted out and
properly funded and all the stuff we have talked about here, before its
even feasible to think about just allowing fm to be used by local
stations.
The problem is that many commercial systems of the small variety, would
fall between the cracks in the proposed new order, and the bigger ones
would
lose coverage.

Brian


Leaving aside the quality issue for a moment, I thought we were supposed
to be going green(er) these days? This is some useless initiative that
the Government is trying to drive through which will mean that - as with
mobile phones - 99% of the population have coverage and 100% of the
population will have to land fill their existing radio equipment.
Speaking as someone who - even in 2010 - cannot get a reliable signal on
Channel 5 and who [after switch-over] will still only be able to get the
main channels via an ariel I have little confidence in the coverage
predictions although I can get Radio 4...

Just how many existing radios will be consigned to land fill? I imagine
though that this initiative will restart the Chinese economy quite nicely.


Has the government been infiltrated?..could account for a few of the weird
policy decisions made lately.



--
Bill Coombes
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Old February 9th 10, 06:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Brian Gaff
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Default House of Lords inquiry into digital radio switchover

Well, the government have no idea at all what to do next. Almost every
decision made of late is either going to be unworkable or counter
productive. This new agency for checking out people who volunteer to work
with vulnerable people is a case in point. Instead of putting more funds
into crb checks, they waste it on yet anouther top heavy load of admin who
are already behind with setting it up before anyone has even been checked
out!

The best we can hope for is that someone in the incoming admin has a clue
about anything other than good intentions and hand wringing.

Brian

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David Kennedy wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:
So why have not the various networks been promoting the enquiry. Seems a
bit
late in the day now?
I feel though that they will have a fight on their hands from the
commercial
interests if they want to turn off fm. I know for a fact a number of
larger
and smaller players in the commercial radio side have sent submissions
to
this enquiry saying that how can they borrow the money to keep their
systems going if they have no proven model finance wise which would be
the
case if the FM rug were pulled out leaving an inadequate DAB system
with a
low listner base. A more realistic date might be 2025. Even hen, what
other
medium can tail the signal off gracefully and not just either cut out
or go
into boiling mud territory.
They believe, I think that the current dab needs to be sorted out and
properly funded and all the stuff we have talked about here, before its
even feasible to think about just allowing fm to be used by local
stations.
The problem is that many commercial systems of the small variety, would
fall between the cracks in the proposed new order, and the bigger ones
would
lose coverage.

Brian


Leaving aside the quality issue for a moment, I thought we were supposed
to be going green(er) these days? This is some useless initiative that
the Government is trying to drive through which will mean that - as with
mobile phones - 99% of the population have coverage and 100% of the
population will have to land fill their existing radio equipment.
Speaking as someone who - even in 2010 - cannot get a reliable signal on
Channel 5 and who [after switch-over] will still only be able to get the
main channels via an ariel I have little confidence in the coverage
predictions although I can get Radio 4...

Just how many existing radios will be consigned to land fill? I imagine
though that this initiative will restart the Chinese economy quite
nicely.


Has the government been infiltrated?..could account for a few of the weird
policy decisions made lately.



--
Bill Coombes



 




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