These rough and ready 'test clips' are recorded with two different mics, one
of which only arrived today and cost about *four times* the price of the
other, so is obviously much better; the only question is which is it - A or
B..??

(The mics stay with the same letter throughout and the 'Piano' clips are a
finger walk up and down the keyboard only - due to a badly buzzing 'string'
making tunes impossible atm!)

Have fun!

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...son-ClartA.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...son-ClartB.wav


http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...son-PianoA.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...son-PianoB.wav


http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...rison-SaxA.wav

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...rison-SaxB.wav


Answers on a postcard, but no fees will be paid, no contract is on offer....

(As usual, I will reveal all if/when someone has had a go at it! :-)

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

These rough and ready 'test clips' are recorded with two different mics,

Meant to say recorded *simultaneously* with two different mics - one on one
channel; the other on the other channnel, needless to say!!

Keith G wrote:

These rough and ready 'test clips' are recorded with two different
mics,

Meant to say recorded *simultaneously* with two different mics - one
on one channel; the other on the other channnel, needless to say!!

Not a lot in it, but B has the edge for me. I get the impression it's
resolving more detail.

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

These rough and ready 'test clips' are recorded with two different
mics,

Meant to say recorded *simultaneously* with two different mics - one
on one channel; the other on the other channnel, needless to say!!

Not a lot in it, but B has the edge for me. I get the impression it's
resolving more detail.



OK, Wally - noted, many thanks! I'll reveal all in due course.

Still got your MR2? Swim's has gone now - she got 60 quid for it!! :-)

Keith G wrote:

Not a lot in it, but B has the edge for me. I get the impression it's
resolving more detail.

OK, Wally - noted, many thanks! I'll reveal all in due course.

Caveat - I listened on my cheapo "Advent" brand headphones. On those, I
thought the clarinet was easiest to tell apart. Mic A sounded rounder or
maybe softer than B. I felt B gave a better impression of there being a
reed. The piano was harder to tell apart - it was more just the odd note
that stood out. A bit like the clart, when I felt there was a difference, B
gave more of the impression of vibrating strings. I think that translates
into a bit more top end. I struggled to hear any difference between the mics
with the sax.

Still got your MR2? Swim's has gone now - she got 60 quid for it!! :-)

Somebody got a serious bargain at that price. Yep, still got mine.
Brilliant motors - still feels great every time I get into it.

If you're looking for musos for the UKRAnian All Stars, I might be
interested in having a bash at something. Kinda depends on the tune - ie,
whether or not I can improvise something, and on whether I can play a
suitable instrument to a standard that's better than crap. (Is 'rubbish'
better than 'crap'?) I used to be decent at guitar until I stopped playing
about three years ago, I'm crap at piano, and I'm an unknown quantity on
MIDI keyboard plus old Hammond sound module (been meaning to set that up and
plug it into a valve guitar amp to see how it sounds).

"Wally" wrote in message
news
Keith G wrote:

Not a lot in it, but B has the edge for me. I get the impression it's
resolving more detail.

OK, Wally - noted, many thanks! I'll reveal all in due course.

Caveat - I listened on my cheapo "Advent" brand headphones. On those, I
thought the clarinet was easiest to tell apart. Mic A sounded rounder or
maybe softer than B. I felt B gave a better impression of there being a
reed. The piano was harder to tell apart - it was more just the odd note
that stood out. A bit like the clart, when I felt there was a difference,
B
gave more of the impression of vibrating strings. I think that translates
into a bit more top end. I struggled to hear any difference between the
mics
with the sax.


OK, thanks for that.



Still got your MR2? Swim's has gone now - she got 60 quid for it!! :-)

Somebody got a serious bargain at that price.


No they didn't - it died and was scrapped!

I reckon the cam belt went and bent the valves - it had lost all power and
there was no compression on the three cylinders the garage guy could reach!
Thought about you as I handed two (spare) rear wheels with good tyres om to
a scrap dealer last week!


Yep, still got mine.
Brilliant motors - still feels great every time I get into it.

:-)




If you're looking for musos for the UKRAnian All Stars, I might be
interested in having a bash at something.


Aha!! :-)


Kinda depends on the tune - ie,
whether or not I can improvise something, and on whether I can play a
suitable instrument to a standard that's better than crap.


I thinks the tune depends upon what instruments/performers are available!


(Is 'rubbish'
better than 'crap'?)


Rubbish is good - it's a start!


I used to be decent at guitar until I stopped playing
about three years ago, I'm crap at piano, and I'm an unknown quantity on
MIDI keyboard plus old Hammond sound module (been meaning to set that up
and
plug it into a valve guitar amp to see how it sounds).


OK, so what do you think would be the best to have a go with? We live in an
'endless multitracking age' so the more instruments the better, if you are
multi-facetted!! Iain's the Bandleader (as well as mixing engineer and
producer) - I'm sure he can scrape summat suitable together when he knows
what he's got to work with!

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:23:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


These rough and ready 'test clips' are recorded with two different mics, one
of which only arrived today and cost about *four times* the price of the
other, so is obviously much better; the only question is which is it - A or
B..??

I'll have a listen later.

But more important things first. If YOU can't tell, obviously the
more expensive one has to be packed and returned asap. Most retailers
give you a week to return goods, no questions asked, don't they?

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:23:32 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


These rough and ready 'test clips' are recorded with two different mics,
one
of which only arrived today and cost about *four times* the price of the
other, so is obviously much better; the only question is which is it - A
or
B..??

I'll have a listen later.

But more important things first. If YOU can't tell, obviously the
more expensive one has to be packed and returned asap. Most retailers
give you a week to return goods, no questions asked, don't they?


That's not what it's about, Laurence; I'm as chuffed as a chuffed person
with both mics, but my opinion isn't important - I know which one sounds
best because I know what they cost (see Subject Line!) and, asitappens, I
like them both!!

But I've done some checking and the 'cheaper' mic isn't quite so cheap any
more (first bloody time I've ever had an *investment* in audio gear!), so
the expensive mic is only about 2.5x the cheaper one!

OK, OK - one of the mics is a dinky little Neumann TLM102 which arrived
today:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...mannTLM102.jpg


The other is my trusty Oktava MK-319.

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...ktavaMK319.jpg


What I'm after finding out is what *others* think of the comparative sound
and, I guess, whether the Neumann is in any way immediately
'outstanding'..???

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:10:29 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

I know which one sounds
best because I know what they cost

Shouldn't there be a smilie after that? :-)

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:10:29 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

I know which one sounds
best because I know what they cost

Shouldn't there be a smiley after that? :-)

No, cognitive dissonance doesn't work that way.

--
Bill Coombes