"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority
of CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing
beats putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every
'vinylist' has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in
various places about the house....


I don't dispute that. Most of us, I guess, have collections of both. I was
merely curious as to why Bob calls those of us who don't find that
"nothing beats putting on a record" "puritans". A bit like a classic car
enthusiast calling someone who prefers the reliabilty and convenience of a
modern car a "purist".


I think he is referring to a preference for the 'pure' sound claimed by CD
advocates - ie free of the inherent colouration and and artefacts of LPs.

On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:56:18 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:34:15 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
.com...
Keith G said...

My problem is I've no idea how to fix anything like this. I'm heavily
dependent on these progs working properly as it seems to have done up
'til
now!

Give Gravity a try, much easier to set up, configure and use than WM.
http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/



What news server address do I use, Ken?



Same one you do now

news.eternal-september.org

And then fill in your user name and password.


Done that and struggling to get any newsgroups now! WTF does "it is
necessary to force the client to send authentication data" mean?

Told you I was dependent on these programs running without causing any
problems!


Pass on that one. I use Forte Agent which is about as simple as they
get.

d

Keith G said...


What news server address do I use, Ken?

news.eternal-september.org
More details at: http://goo.gl/QqsIR

List of other free news servers if you are after a specific group.
http://freenews.maxbaud.net/

--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

Keith G said...

Done that and struggling to get any newsgroups now! WTF does "it is
necessary to force the client to send authentication data" mean?

In Gravity go to menu...
Server
Properties
On that tab under News server Password
Untick "No password required" and then tick
"Log on using" and fill in your user name and password for E-September.

I've just set up an Eternal September account and those settings are
working as I am posting this reply through it, I hope!

--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
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Keith G said...

Done that and struggling to get any newsgroups now! WTF does "it is
necessary to force the client to send authentication data" mean?

In Gravity go to menu...
Server
Properties
On that tab under News server Password
Untick "No password required" and then tick
"Log on using" and fill in your user name and password for E-September.

I've just set up an Eternal September account and those settings are
working as I am posting this reply through it, I hope!


Lovely job Ken, I'm in! Now all I got to do is find my way round - right now
all I'm getting is a lot of Ian wants to borrow a bandsaw posts! :-)

Many thanks.

UnsteadyKen said...

I hope!

Yes, it worked.



--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority
of CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing
beats putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every
'vinylist' has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in
various places about the house....


I don't dispute that. Most of us, I guess, have collections of both. I
was merely curious as to why Bob calls those of us who don't find that
"nothing beats putting on a record" "puritans". A bit like a classic car
enthusiast calling someone who prefers the reliabilty and convenience of
a modern car a "purist".


I think he is referring to a preference for the 'pure' sound claimed by CD
advocates - ie free of the inherent colouration and and artefacts of LPs.

I see what you are driving at, and if CDs were a lot more expensive and less
convenient than LPs, and the ONLY reason for prefering them was the cleaner,
less coloured sound then he might have a point. I happily admit to
prefering the less coloured sound and lack of background noise of the CD;
and if I went to a lot of trouble and expense to get it then maybe, just
maybe, the term "puritan" might be justified. But since I don't have to it
isn't, quite the contrary in fact.

I would never describe the sound from a CD as "pure", an undistorted sine
wave is "pure", but it ain't music!

David.

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

David no sane person could contest your arguments about the superiority
of CD over LP in many respects but the truth for some of us is nothing
beats putting on a record. It's almost a certainty that virtually every
'vinylist' has a collection of CDs as well: there are hundreds here in
various places about the house....


I don't dispute that. Most of us, I guess, have collections of both. I
was merely curious as to why Bob calls those of us who don't find that
"nothing beats putting on a record" "puritans". A bit like a classic car
enthusiast calling someone who prefers the reliabilty and convenience of
a modern car a "purist".


I think he is referring to a preference for the 'pure' sound claimed by
CD advocates - ie free of the inherent colouration and and artefacts of
LPs.

I see what you are driving at, and if CDs were a lot more expensive and
less convenient than LPs, and the ONLY reason for prefering them was the
cleaner, less coloured sound then he might have a point. I happily admit
to prefering the less coloured sound and lack of background noise of the
CD; and if I went to a lot of trouble and expense to get it then maybe,
just maybe, the term "puritan" might be justified. But since I don't have
to it isn't, quite the contrary in fact.

I would never describe the sound from a CD as "pure", an undistorted sine
wave is "pure", but it ain't music!


When it comes to talk of colouration of whatever music media I always have a
little thought for the amplification, playback equipment and
headphones/speakers being used. Whilst some may be purer than others, no-one
gets a totally 'pure' sound.

Then there's the room....

;-)

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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test

test test

Zero activity - oh Gawd is it me again? Another test then!

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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test

test test

Zero activity - oh Gawd is it me again? Another test then!

OK apparently not!