I just came across this today while looking for John Cage records on
Amazon:

www.catm.co.uk

Some professional musicians are getting fed up with the amateurs on X-
Factor getting the Christmas No.1, so they've put out a recording of
John Cage's 4'33", this is a piece composed in 1952 which is for any
number of musicians to remain silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

Only seems to be available as a download, it would be more effective
as a CD or even better on vinyl (you would get the crackle etc).

Only seems to be available as a download


Yes, trouble is, in MP3 format, which for many lovers of upmarket hi-
fi is a compromise too far on sound quality.

Question is, if you fail to download it and instead download nothing,
does this compromise copyright law.

On 17/12/2010 20:38, allantracy wrote:
Only seems to be available as a download


Yes, trouble is, in MP3 format, which for many lovers of upmarket hi-
fi is a compromise too far on sound quality.

Question is, if you fail to download it and instead download nothing,
does this compromise copyright law.

So it's not available in uncompressed 16 or 24 bit format?
Then I won't be buying it.

--
Eiron.

In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 17/12/2010 20:38, allantracy wrote:
Only seems to be available as a download


Yes, trouble is, in MP3 format, which for many lovers of upmarket hi-
fi is a compromise too far on sound quality.

Question is, if you fail to download it and instead download nothing,
does this compromise copyright law.

So it's not available in uncompressed 16 or 24 bit format? Then I won't
be buying it.

Weird as it sounds pun your point is a good one. :-)

I wonder how effeciently FLAC would compress it... ;-

Slainte,

Jim

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On 17/12/2010 20:38, allantracy wrote:

Only seems to be available as a download


Yes, trouble is, in MP3 format, which for many lovers of upmarket hi-
fi is a compromise too far on sound quality.

Question is, if you fail to download it and instead download nothing,
does this compromise copyright law.



http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/...-on-cages-433/

On 2010\12\17 18:51, wrote:
I just came across this today while looking for John Cage records on
Amazon:

www.catm.co.uk

Some professional musicians are getting fed up with the amateurs on X-
Factor getting the Christmas No.1, so they've put out a recording of
John Cage's 4'33", this is a piece composed in 1952 which is for any
number of musicians to remain silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

Only seems to be available as a download, it would be more effective
as a CD or even better on vinyl (you would get the crackle etc).

You could always buy this on vinyl...
http://www.discogs.com/No-Artist-The...elease/1421098

In article
,
wrote:
Some professional musicians are getting fed up with the amateurs on X-
Factor getting the Christmas No.1, so they've put out a recording of
John Cage's 4'33", this is a piece composed in 1952 which is for any
number of musicians to remain silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

Of course you never get true silence with people in a room. They breathe
and move - even when seated or standing still.

Many years ago I was doing some location recording in a real courtroom on
a Sunday - when it wasn't in use. We actually had the use of two near
identical courts - one for the actual filming and the other used as a sort
of green room for the 50 or so extras.
I recorded a wild track of those extras - no chat. Just meant to be
listening to what was going on in the court. Although it was central
London, the room was pretty well insulated, so only very distant traffic
sounds.

I've lost count of how many times that wildtrack has been used for other
things.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 18/12/2010 10:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Some professional musicians are getting fed up with the amateurs on X-
Factor getting the Christmas No.1, so they've put out a recording of
John Cage's 4'33", this is a piece composed in 1952 which is for any
number of musicians to remain silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

Of course you never get true silence with people in a room. They breathe
and move - even when seated or standing still.

It will probably be normalized to 0dB when played on the radio. :-)

--
Eiron.

In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 18/12/2010 10:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Some professional musicians are getting fed up with the amateurs on
X- Factor getting the Christmas No.1, so they've put out a recording
of John Cage's 4'33", this is a piece composed in 1952 which is for
any number of musicians to remain silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

Of course you never get true silence with people in a room. They
breathe and move - even when seated or standing still.

It will probably be normalized to 0dB when played on the radio. :-)

I suspect you are correct. Indeed, if it is released on CD as well as
download...

Slainte,

Jim

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Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

On 19/12/2010 12:27 a.m., Jim Lesurf wrote:
In , Eiron
wrote:
On 18/12/2010 10:46, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Some professional musicians are getting fed up with the amateurs on
X- Factor getting the Christmas No.1, so they've put out a recording
of John Cage's 4'33", this is a piece composed in 1952 which is for
any number of musicians to remain silent for 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

Of course you never get true silence with people in a room. They
breathe and move - even when seated or standing still.

It will probably be normalized to 0dB when played on the radio. :-)

I suspect you are correct. Indeed, if it is released on CD as well as
download...

Slainte,

Jim

Jim, now wouldn't it be the ideal piece to let loose on the "vinyl is
better than CD" brigade? It would also be interesting to compare how each
genre is mastered/ pressed ......... Oooh! and what about DBT just to put
the pressure on!

Mike