"Keith G" wrote

Another 'all mouth and no trousers' Net Nazi' but someone had better
inform the St Neots Heart shop - they've got a sign in the window asking
for CDs and DVDs!


I'm sure they are well aware of the implications of copyright law, charity
shops like that need to be. It's you who appear to be woefully ignorant of
it. Asking for, or selling, second-hand CDs or DVDs is not illegal. What
would be illegal would be for you to continue to listen to rips from CDs or
LPs if you had parted with the licensed media.

David.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


OK, how do you feel about having someone else in the room
when you are playing a CD *you* paid for?

If it is a private listening for friends and/or family, then it is a
licensed use.

Do you think
they should send a 'listening fee' to the record company
who released the CD?

I already paid!


But do you live on an oil rig?

In article ,
Keith G wrote:
OK, how do you feel about having someone else in the room when you are
playing a CD *you* paid for? Do you think they should send a 'listening
fee' to the record company who released the CD?

Do you know the difference between private and public? The licence details
will tell you.

--
*I believe five out of four people have trouble with fractions. *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

Another 'all mouth and no trousers' Net Nazi' but someone had better
inform the St Neots Heart shop - they've got a sign in the window asking
for CDs and DVDs!


I'm sure they are well aware of the implications of copyright law, charity
shops like that need to be. It's you who appear to be woefully ignorant of
it.


Another ill-mannered remark. Do you really want to be added to the few
******* here who I 'mark as read' *without* reading the reams of crap they
post?

S'up to you....

"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

Another 'all mouth and no trousers' Net Nazi' but someone had better
inform the St Neots Heart shop - they've got a sign in the window asking
for CDs and DVDs!


I'm sure they are well aware of the implications of copyright law,
charity shops like that need to be. It's you who appear to be woefully
ignorant of it.


Another ill-mannered remark.

Coming from you, Keith, that is a remark of staggering arrogance. There is
no-one on this group more inclined to posting ill-mannered remarks than you.

Since you've just posted a post that showed ignorance of copyright law my
remark was entirely justified.

David.

"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote

Another 'all mouth and no trousers' Net Nazi' but someone had better
inform the St Neots Heart shop - they've got a sign in the window
asking for CDs and DVDs!


I'm sure they are well aware of the implications of copyright law,
charity shops like that need to be. It's you who appear to be woefully
ignorant of it.


Another ill-mannered remark.

Coming from you, Keith, that is a remark of staggering arrogance. There is
no-one on this group more inclined to posting ill-mannered remarks than
you.


You really do have *selective vision* don't you? You seem to be completely
unable to see the endless slurs and insults coming my way - frequently 'over
the water' Remember what I have said: I pay in the coin I am paid in and I
already have a stack of ****ty remarks, like the one above, from you that
want settling....



Since you've just posted a post that showed ignorance of copyright law my
remark was entirely justified.


I'm sorry, unless you are qualified in Law, your comments about copyright
are pure guessology, especially in the case of the Heart shop as I suspect
you almost certainly haven't asked them what, if any arrangements may have
been made regarding copyright on the disks they are selling. See the 'What
to donate' section he

http://www.bhf.org.uk/shop/donating-...Goods%20011210


Note 'CDs and DVDs in the list. If there was anything illegal about that I'm
sure some opinionated tosser would have been on to the BPI or IFPI by now?

I think you need to know that I disregard 'Looser's Law' when I see it
spouted and don't actually take your twisted view on *anything as *gospel*!

OK?

On 22/03/2011 15:04, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Personally, I think your confession was rather unwise. If you didn't put
an 'x no archive' in your header [1] then your statement will be openly
available on the usenet archives for anyone to trawl up at any future point.

Does anyone in Scotland actually have a life?

Keith G wrote:



snip


Why are you so sensitive and 'defensive' of what is shortly going to
prove a
passing music media format - you got shares in them or summat? ;-)

If you gave me a CD, I would rip it to disk (256K) and give the CD to the
local Heart Shop....



You never learn that it is pointless baiting the clueless clique.
If they don't know about a subject then as far as they are concerned
it never existed, until you give them a few clues, just watch.....

In google or Bing, type the following search terms:
Serial copy management system (SCMS)
Digital Rights Management (DRM)

There are several *RIAA legal cases, try a couple of searches on:
Whitney Harper
or
Jammie Thomas-Rasset

*RIAA - Recording Industry Association of America, though they are
not the only instigator of legal action.

Technically, what you basically proposed you would remain
in the clear, inasmuch if you were to make one copy for
personal use and donated the original copyright CD to a charity
shop and they re-sold the original "pre-owned" CD, that would not
be a problem.

The clueless clique will now erupt in a frenzy of googling.....

"No Win No Fee" wrote

Technically, what you basically proposed you would remain
in the clear, inasmuch if you were to make one copy for
personal use and donated the original copyright CD to a charity
shop and they re-sold the original "pre-owned" CD, that would not
be a problem.


That *is* a problem since it is a clear breach of copyright law.

Do not forget we are talking UK law here, not US law.

The clueless clique

That will be you then.....


David.

"seigneur" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 22/03/2011 15:04, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Personally, I think your confession was rather unwise. If you didn't put
an 'x no archive' in your header [1] then your statement will be openly
available on the usenet archives for anyone to trawl up at any future
point.

Does anyone in Scotland actually have a life?


Judging by the amount of crap* this particular 'ex-pat' appends to my posts,
I'd say most definitely** not!

It may be a 'daylight' thing and not winding the clocks or somesuch..??


* Pity I don't read it!! :-)

** Check the spelling Arny and let's see you get it right next time.